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Ran when parked

Link g1 ecu with hand controller 
Taken off spark leads there is spark
Taken off fuel hose tonnes of fuel

Pump primes 
And keeps priming 
Does Not shut off!!!!!!!!!!

When cranking 
Fuel pump turns off.
Injectors cycling.

Start ya bastard doesn't work

Was making putt putt sounds will post video soon. 
https://youtu.be/FBx2F9p3lEU

Throughout the video itll fire once or twice. if i kept cranking away it wouldn't do it again and i would hold it cranking for 20-30 seconds.

Now nothing cranks over just fine.

 

Voltage at a steady 11.9 or there abouts. have drained 2-3 batteries trying charging them up now. 
Have looked for any grounding issues. Couldn't find any. 
Please help!

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Have checked all vacuum hoses as well.
I have found some dogey wiring under the steering column and i think i will redo it all tomorrow properly. 
 

the two videos just posted have the battery at 11.1 v so barely turning over but the temp gauge comes up after a few cranks and the tacho goes nuts. 
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdzfzs44iL4

 

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Hi in your earlier video, where the tacho needle would jump up, this indicates that some sort of trigger error could be occurring. This is because when a trigger error occurs the ECU is unsure about the current engine speed and position.

Does the hand controller show any engine speed when you are cranking?

Scott

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So I have found some terrible wiring. I have since pulled dash out fixed a bit of wiring but will be doing it all by wed arvo I hope. The think that keeps getting me is that when the fuel pressure gets to 40psi ish the fuel pump doesnt stop priming. The thing continuously keeps running 

 

Is there a sensor where the pressure of the fuel turns off the pump. 

Im in the process of checking continuity within this twist and tape goodness im working with. Will update if I find something.

Also something on the side. I want to put the electronic ecu from this car into another one. Does the link need an input /output for an electronic speedo. And then I could run a mechanical speedo on this particular car.

Thanks 

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On the G1 the pump should prime for 3 seconds and then stop if there is no trigger input from a cranking engine. If it continues to run without the engine cranking then this would indicate there are false triggers on the crank sensor wires.

Do you have a hand control to check ECU with?

 

 

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I have a hand controller. Shows 200rpm when cranking 

 

Why under any circumstance would there be issues with the crank sensor when its showing the rpm when cranking. 
I will be looking into the wiring for it and hopefully i have a spare one i can test out when i get home. i have watched the link ecu video on the issue.
My question is when the ecu is showing cranks why would there be an error considering theres only 2 wires going to the sensor?

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I'm not suggesting an issue with the sensor. It could be that there is a relay causing noise on the trigger wires and this is keeping the pump running.

The other option could be the pump has been rewired to run all the time. Did it use to do this before?

 

One common issue on the old Subarus is that the earths can fail sometimes it is often worth running fresh wires through to the ECU.

 

Also on the hand control scroll to another screen other than RPM and then crank the engine. If the hand control resets to RPM then this indicates the ECU is seeing low voltage at crank.

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  • 2 weeks later...

I had the rpm pointer flickering before while driving and engine behaves normal. Drives me nut to see the rpm pointer flickering from time to time. I did my DIY earth mod, ie adding extra earth wires from battery negative terminal to any electrical harness grounding points at the engine or chassis including one to ECU grounding point near to ECU and I was glad it fix the rpm pointer going nuts. 2 years ago, it happened again and I realise some of the grounding points were coated with paint due I had the car resprayed. Cleaned up the grounding points, all ok but it still didn't fix my starting problem in the morning. Most morning start, ok and there will be a few morning, it just refuse to fire up. Few hours later, starts perfectly. I just replaced the battery and for the first time, I was able to see 100 rpm in the controller during crank. I have replaced cam sensor, crank sensor, coolant sensor, spark plugs, ignition coil. Next probably looking at Ebay for original ECU for sale.

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We can give the ECU an overhaul as it will be getting on in years and solder joints can fail over time.

There is also a sub-board on those ECUs that if the contacts get dirty you could get intermittent issues.

If you want for $150+gst we can do a full service on the unit to at least rule it out.

 

 

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SOOOOOO
I have rewired the ecu where it was crimped and taped or soldered and electrical taped.
I have also re wired all the starter key wiring on the steering column 


AND i have checked all my sensors if they work 
I have come to a conclusion that the issue must be in the ecu 
This is when i found a burnt resistor and a shifty connection that seems to be soldered on by a 3 year old child.

I am in need of finding out what number 48 resistor is on a wrx v3-4 link g1 ecu.

Hopefully this will be the finish of all the troubles i have had.

 

i have just measured i am getting a reading of 28.4 Mega Ohms but im unsure if that burnt resistor is correct.

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Ok so will it be a swich over from part to part procedure for the ic or does it need to undergo a software procedure. looking at details of the component it just changes the arrangement of the array within the data sheet so therefore it doesnt contain any information that the ecu would be missing. please confirm. 

 

These array solvers seem to be in all the cas calculators (graphic calculators if you may).

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