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  1. So true. Spanked my self (mentally) , fixed the wiring and got it working. Thank you! :-)
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    Hayabusa turbo

    OK, thank you!
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Still I haven't been able to find answer for this. Or actually have find two different answers.. Mostly common way seems that both grounds are connected to power side ground (cylinderhead) , but some think it is better to use singnal ground in pin 1. Coils are VAG Short ones (0986221023 ), there are two different types of connectors used in VAG coils. https://www.finjector.com/eng/bosch_ignition_coil_vag_1_2_1_6_with_power_stage-p-32668-42?fbclid=IwAR15DcyU-kxq8QGR6-hITwbtwEaG8_osqeaYdP0RY4YY9cJLQGs4d3tUubg
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    Hayabusa turbo

    I have a VAG smart coils with 4 connections. +12V, ground and signal is clear, but should I use sensor ground in fourth or just connect it to power side ground?
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Thas is right, I did even draw it in wiring diagram.. :-) I shouldn't write here before morning coffee.. Thanks anyway. Again. ;-) Jani
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Cam sensor is a hall. Shielded wire in Link loom is together with knock sensor wire. does it supply +5 or +8 V ? I think it is ok to use with OEM Hayabusa hall-sensor.. Is "signal ground " in smart coils same as "sensor ground"
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Main switch is hand operated switch, that should take it easily. Used in case of fire, for example, to connect all the electric power off. Reason for using aux 4 is, that in FIM-E rules there is : "All gasoline or methanol burning motorcycles must be equipped with an electrical contact which disconnects all electricity to the engine (and nitrous oxide system, if used) and including electric fuel pumps if the rider should lose control of the motorcycle." (=wrist strap) So there is wrist strap, run/stop-button and emergency-button that are doing basically same thing, but with little differently. Off course this could be done with relays, but I thought this would simplify wiring and do it with the ECU. Emergency button is something we just do to every bike in our team. I am lying very low on my bike. If I lose the control of the bike and will not be able to let go of the gas or lift it, there if a button in top of your front fork, that you can try to hit with your forehead and it will kill the bike for the moment. Sounds little bit funny, but that is just something that we have agreed to do. We have to remember, that we are trying to build +500 hp bike with no wheelie bars that will weight less than 250 kg. Team is not very experienced at this level and bike (including slider clutch) is all new, so there are lots of things that can go wrong amazingly fast. If am not very over worried of anything usually, but now I have to admit, that now I have certain respect for the bike and I am thinking little bit of safety also.. :-) There are several sensor ground wires and +5v wires in Link wiring loom Most of them are used for critical sensors, but there is one or two left and I still have lots of sensors that I need to get powered (Rear swing height, gear position sensor, puel pressure.. Etc.) So, is there any limit for sensors and is there rule, that some types of sensors should not connect to same +5v power or sensor ground. Mostly Hall, pressure, and travel sensors. Edit: Hall doesn't need sensor ground, but +8v, shared with cam sensor. And sensor ground is already divided in the loom, so it should be OK to divide again later in loom.
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Link Fury. Wiring is done mostly with Link wiring looms, made the job so much easier for the first timer. After pic I have done most wiring for the power suply. Link 4bar MAP sensor , boost solenoid, lamda OEM ECT sensor, GPS Cordona quickshifter, KMS TPS, industrial swing height sensor, fuel- and oil pressure sensors, 4x exhaust temperature via CAN
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Well, it was a year and a half since I started this topic and there has been progress... Slowly , but anyway.. :-) I have taken lots of web courses from HP acatemy, have been building tanks with my welderguy, machining , changed frame and front, bought tons of parts, build the engine.. And now it is one big mess.. :-) But we are gettiing somewhere and after couple of months I should be racing with the bike. Yeiiii! Still got lots of questions.. I'll send a diaghram soon So here is a drawing I made for the bike. Comments? Is powering lamda going to be problem thet way? I write some more details later. Jani /FunJam Racing
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    Audi 1,8t Basemap

    Hi! Would anyone have basemap for Audi 1,8t engine (TT Plug-in) with 1200cc injectors, so I could drive the car to dyno. Or would simply dropping master fuel value in existing map do the magic? Jani
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    S13 CAN lamda

    Thanks! I'll get one. Jani
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    S13 CAN lamda

    Hi! I have a Plug-in for Nissan S13. It has SR20det engine I also have CAN lamda and ethanol content sensor. And wiring extension loom like in pic. It seems I can use only DI9 for CAN? So do I need to buy CAN wiring loom for CAN lamda?
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    Hayabusa turbo

    It was Gen 2 with original ECU. It is good, that it is working for you. Just thought to mention if it had save some trouble to check it first. Can you point out/link the topic, where this pull up resistor is mentioned?
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Greg, I was having a conversation about this with my team and heard that GPS voltage in Hayabusa is not stable. In earlier project they had AIM boost controller and had troubles with this and they finally ended up to use push button from shifter to calculate gear and clutch lever to remain it to gear 1. I did bought those 2200 cc injectors, there is bank 1 , bank 2 and one spare bank, all flowtested in the shop to match to each other as near as possible. Turbo is Holset with billet turbine and we have 8, 12 and 14 exhaust housings, we are going to start from 12.
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Here is just one foto from todays shoot, before we tear this bike apart for modifications. And some info you can find also here https://www.facebook.com/FunJamRacing And you can find us also in instagram @FunJamRacing
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    Hayabusa turbo

    And cheap analog accelorometer I can more easily assembly with some rubber bands etc. to damp some vibration. I think hall sensors would be the right ones to measure wheel speed. Don't know yet how we are going to build that, but I think we make tooth count to fit with sensor. One idea came in my mind thinking this.. It might be possible to measure lock-up actions with hall sensor. If lock-up "claws" would work as tooths, you could see RPMs where first set is out. And when second is coming along, it will douple the "tooths" (in 2-stage lock-up). There speed is fast, but its only informative, so I don't know if it makes big difference or if its worth to choose thunder over fury with this cause. I really don't know if it is even possible to use hall sensor like this. Just crossed my mind.. :-)
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    Hayabusa turbo

    So, if I'm comparing Fury and Thunder, meaningful differences would be: -Thermocouples -> I need 4 so probably need to get EGT to can anyway -2 Lamdas -> I think need only one anyway - Sensor for g-force -> comes possibly with the dash or with the RaceCapture-device if I decide to get one. Is there any reason why I should choose Thunder over Fury? It has got more inputs and outputs, but Fury seems to have enough. Do I get more accurate info with Thunders own accelorometer? Do I get more precise ... something?
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Have been reading owners manual and playing with software for a couple of days now. Most of the questions I have found answers now and keep reading. More I read, more questions come out.. :-) Came in my mind, that if I would use Android/Tablet via Bluetooth, is it possible to use two tablets at same time? So one would be as dash and with one my mechanic could watch temperatures, pressures etc. in starting line. Off course connection for mechanics tab would be lost at some point of the track. More likely this would be just nice add/show off, but maybe it could be useful at some point.. Dash could also connected with wire if possible.
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Actually I have been thinking Thunder too, last time yesterday. :-D Difference in prices here are around 1500€ Black / 1700€ Fury / 2100 € Thunder, so if it eliminates need of Lamda CAN controller (400€ ) and would need to buy only sensor (100€ ,which I have, but still want to buy new one for this project) , difference ain't too big. If only Thunder could read 4 thermocouples instead of 2, it would surely be a winner.. But maby... And thanks for the pictures about the coils. GTR coils really seems to fit nicely and would surely be a good choice.
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    Hayabusa turbo

    https://www.finjector.com/eng/sytytyspuola_paateasteella_audi_2_0_3_2_l_pitka_punaine_bosch_0986221052-p-525402-42 VAG coils would be something like this I think..
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Are these R35 GTR coils smart coils or CDI coils? Black Extreme can run smart coils directly, without amplifier, think? In rallycross they are using some VAG coils pretty commonly here in Europe, but I haven't got yet time to find out, which ones. Seem to work pretty well, since most have over 700 hp from relatively small engines, I think. My plan is to use E85 as a fuel, relatively low compression ratio and high boost pressure. Hopefully would see over 600 rwhp someday, even it is still a long road.. :-) There should be room enough, as we plan to put plenum / inter-cooler behind the cylinder block, so there would be some room above the cylinder head. M&W has got also 4 channel CDI (pro-14) that costs about same as 2 arc's, but would mean little less wiring..
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    Hayabusa turbo

    I have been told Busa coils would be CDI coils... How can I be sure?
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    Hayabusa turbo

    OK... So Extreme black has 2 CAN ports and I need to use one for EGT and one for lamda and one for dash? Or do I need to forget the dash? Is there anything else someone would normally need to connect to CAN in this type of system? --> ok, noticed that etc. dash 2 pro can be connected to serial port. Ignition outputs still are the same even I would use amplifier, I assume. I plan to use stock coils and amlifier like arc- 2 etc. (which , I beliieve runs 2 coils at the same time.. Havent got time to figure out that yet, but had some memory)
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Thanks! If I Want to measure exhaust temperatures with 4 thermocouples, I assume I need to use amplifier connected to CAN?
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    Hayabusa turbo

    Thanks!! I did download software, but didn't find this trim table yet. It sounds to be good enough. There are plenty of ECUs and so many features to consider and English is not my first language, so it sometimes feels little bit like running in swamp... So I thought it is better to just ask. Fuel Tech seems to be pretty easy to install, since it has most features in one device, but I am not used to go the easy way if result is better with banging head to the wall for a while.. :-) But still I would be happy to keep electrics as simple as possible. Every wire from devise to another is something that can break, and for every device I need to find a place to install. This accelometer seems fine, 3 axis is enough if directions fit, one for acceleration, one for braking and one? For knowing how hard I land after wheelie? ;-) Main thing anyway is to find out, if I have a wheel spin. Along the way I have learnt to appreciate this kind of forums, it is big deal for me. Jani
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