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  1. Hi Scott,

    I decided to make my life a bit easier and bought myself a new fury ecu. Now I want to configure the parameters so I can log clutch/TC slip % of my motorcycle. My problem is I don’t have a speed sensor on the input shaft to measure the frequency. I have a speed sensor on my output shaft. Is it possible to measure clutch/TC slip % with my current setup? It’s impossible to put a speed sensor on the input shaft.

    Thanks,

    Dolfo

  2. Scott,

    You’re correct about the negative clutch slip. I can see it in my data. I was off the throttle from 100% to 40% and lower. That’s when I get the negative clutch slip.

    The speed sensor see 4 teeth. I will try to get access to an oscilloscope so I can measure the amplitude of the speed signal. How can I make this signal stronger? Maybe get the sensor closer to the pickup?

    Thanks,

    Dolfo

    Section Time

    TP (Main)

    Engine Speed

    Gear

    Speed -DI2

    Speed Back wheel

    Output Shaft Speed of the Gearbox

    Input Shaft Speed of the Gearbox

    Clutch Slip %

    6.74

    44.9

    8491

    1

    114.1

    1403

    3547.657

    9543.20

    -11.03

    6.76

    31.1

    8281

    1

    111.6

    1372

    3469.926

    9334.10

    -11.28

    6.78

    22.6

    7603

    1

    104.7

    1287

    3255.387

    8756.99

    -13.18

    6.8

    18.7

    7332

    1

    104.7

    1287

    3255.387

    8756.99

    -16.27

    6.82

    20.8

    7687

    1

    99.3

    1221

    3087.488

    8305.34

    -7.45

    6.84

    24.9

    8465

    1

    101.1

    1243

    3143.454

    8455.89

    0.11

    6.86

    29.4

    8256

    1

    105.4

    1296

    3277.152

    8815.54

    -6.35

    6.88

    32.8

    8074

    1

    107.6

    1323

    3345.556

    8999.54

    -10.28

    6.9

    40.9

    8191

    1

    105.8

    1301

    3289.589

    8848.99

    -7.44

    6.92

    54.8

    8256

    1

    107.2

    1318

    3333.119

    8966.09

    -7.92

     

  3. Hi Scott,

    Does this look right to you? I see clutch slip % goes into minus (negative) slip what is the explanation for this?  

    Wheel speed has a delay before it will start reading. What can I do to get it to read as soon as the bike starts moving forward? This causes a big number of clutch slip % at the start of the run.

    Thanks,

    Dolfo

    Section Time

    Engine Speed

    Gear

    Speed -DI2

    Speed Back wheel

    Output Shaft Speed of the Gearbox

    Input Shaft Speed of the Gearbox

    Clutch Slip %

    4.5

    6967

    0

    0.3

    4

    9.328

    25.09

    27666.19

    4.52

    7102

    0

    0.3

    4

    9.328

    25.09

    28204.22

    4.54

    7290

    0

    0.3

    4

    9.328

    25.09

    28953.47

    4.56

    7491

    0

    0.3

    4

    9.328

    25.09

    29754.53

    8.26

    9488

    3

    148.3

    1823

    4611.022

    7903.29

    20.05

    8.28

    9664

    3

    149

    1832

    4632.786

    7940.60

    21.70

    8.3

    9541

    3

    150.1

    1845

    4666.988

    7999.22

    19.27

    8.32

    9630

    3

    150.8

    1854

    4688.753

    8036.52

    19.83

    8.34

    9674

    3

    151.5

    1862

    4710.518

    8073.83

    19.82

    8.36

    9684

    3

    151.5

    1862

    4710.518

    8073.83

    19.94

    8.38

    9827

    3

    153

    1881

    4757.156

    8153.77

    20.52

    8.4

    9801

    3

    153.3

    1884

    4766.484

    8169.75

    19.97

    8.42

    9827

    3

    154

    1893

    4788.249

    8207.06

    19.74

    8.44

    10026

    3

    155.1

    1907

    4822.451

    8265.68

    21.30

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    Hi Scott,

    Thanks for the explanation!! I forgot the say it was for a motorcycle clutch slip calculation. What I don’t understand is the: Selected gear ratio and the Differential ratio.

    The rest of the calculation is clear. Attached is a gearing worksheet of my motorcycle. Maybe you can tell me what I need to use for selected gear ratio and differential ratio for my calculations. Is selected gear ratio the ratio per gear? And differential ratio (17/43)?

    Wheel circumference: 1.356m   (circumference = π * wheel diameter => 3.14 * 0.43m => 1.356m)

    First we need to determine the rpm of the driven wheel:

    100 km/h => 1.667 km/m => 1667m/m

    wheel speed/wheel circumference = wheel RPM:

    1667/1.356 = 1229.24 RPM.

    The wheel RPM then gets multiplied by the differential ratio to give the output shaft speed of the gearbox:

    1229.24*?? = ?? RPM

    The output shaft speed then gets multiplied by the selected gear ratio to give the input shaft speed of the gearbox:

    ??*?? = ?? RPM

    So far I came with my calculations.Thanks,

    Dolfo

       
       

    Gearing GSXR 1000.png

  5. Hi all,

    I have a question about % clutch slip calculation. I want to calculate my % clutch slip using my ECU log file.

    I’m logging Wheel speed (on output shaft) and also Engine speed (RPM).

    Is it possible to manually calculate % clutch slip? I thought export data to excel and do the calculation.

    I don’t have a spare DI. Thanks,

    Dolfo

  6. Hi Paul,

    I saw you had a great weekend a santa pod with some great results. Good job!

    Sorry mate I don’t use knock sensors on my motorcycle so I can’t answer that question. Once I did use an external knock detection system to tune with but didn’t record much noise.

    I think because of the fuel I’m using and I started with very conservative ignition timing. So I found my setup is not knock limited because I’ll reach MBT before it starts knocking.

    Regards,

    Dolfo

  7. Hi Dan,

    By your example here is how I do it.

    Hold Shift

    Makes a selection based on arrow. Arrow left, right, up, down you can select multiple cells. After selecting those cells you want to modify just press +10% and then Enter. This will increase the selection by 10%. Check help file Keyboard Shortcuts!

     

    Regards,

    Dolfo

     

     

  8. Hi TeamJHR,

    I use most of the Suzuki sensors. Extra sensors depends on what you’re building the bike for. My bike is built for drag race.

    I use a four channel ignition coil driver with standard Suzuki coils. Wideband O2 controller & sensor. I also have oil pressure and fuel pressure sensor.

    I would recommend changing the standard cam sensor (reluctor type) to a hall type it will save you some time and trouble.

    Regards,

    Dolfo  

  9. Hi TeamJHR,

    I'm running a vipec v44 on a Suzuki GSXR 1000 k5. This motorcycle has a turbocharged engine. And I have several Suzuki Hayabusas running vipec i44 all with good results till now.

    Regards,

    Dolfo

  10. Hi Dave,

    As I promised here is the result of the gear shift control setup.

    Everything worked flawless. The track was not ideal for what I want to test but I’m glad that the settings were good and did what I ask.

    Just need to tweak a little more but that’s normal. Here’s a log of the shift control.

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