G4+ subaru wrx V7-10 plugin is a dud

[Simon]

Hi

Yeah the joys of a mix and match application.

Suspect the sensor polarity's might have been played with to try and make the stock ECU work with the mixed up cam triggers.

I can assure you on a stock car (no mix and match going on) the units are a very easy to install and have up and running once the basics have ben checked.

 

[wildwestaussie1]

Hi

Yeah the joys of a mix and match application.

Suspect the sensor polarity's might have been played with to try and make the stock ECU work with the mixed up cam triggers.

I can assure you on a stock car (no mix and match going on) the units are a very easy to install and have up and running once the basics have ben checked.

 

yeah maybe STI stuff has a few tricks up it's sleeve,but wiring had'nt been modded prior to engine swap

[Rich RDE]

I can tell you that I recently had a customer come back and state the same sort of issue. He emailed Link which then emailed me. I told him to send me the ECU so I can find a same setup and plug it in to see if I can get it running with that same ECU. 

Long behold the car came in and I was able to get the ECU to run the same vehicle with the same setup. Come to find out that someone had installed the battery cables reverse polarity and shorted some stuff. Also the grounds are very sensitive. I would start diag. and I am sure you will come across the issue.

 

[mapper]

Wildwestaussi1 think best is if you just leave this forum. A forum is there to help out each other. Only thing you are doing is blaming products and other tuners.

If you are incompetend to install and setup such a highend ECU, just don't touch anything and take the car to one of the  LINK ECU Tuners you can find on the website. 

And before you are calling everyone an idiot;

I'm a professional Tuner and worked with LINK ECU's on Subaru's for several years. I came never across such a problem you descripted. As you statet, there was alot going on with this engine/car before you have got your hands on. So go and search there for a fault, but don't blame a great ECU manufacturer! 

[wildwestaussie1]

Wildwestaussi1 think best is if you just leave this forum. A forum is there to help out each other. Only thing you are doing is blaming products and other tuners.

If you are incompetend to install and setup such a highend ECU, just don't touch anything and take the car to one of the  LINK ECU Tuners you can find on the website. 

And before you are calling everyone an idiot;

I'm a professional Tuner and worked with LINK ECU's on Subaru's for several years. I came never across such a problem you descripted. As you statet, there was alot going on with this engine/car before you have got your hands on. So go and search there for a fault, but don't blame a great ECU manufacturer! 

wow,you really are a turkey,like i said i'm not putting my resume up here just to impress a yokel like you.

i have fitted or done set up tunes on most avail brands of ecu and yes occaisionally you always get the odd car that will take days to start,even motec has had no start issues so don't go saying my situation was out of the ordinary.

as a qualified mechanic i'll touch whatever i like on the car and if you don't like that princess then thats tough for you.

as one of your own posters agreed the 1998 sti motor should have had the correct teeth on the cam wheel,it did'nt and was probably changed out to run on the standard model apexi power fc as it was set up previously in the 1998 car,unfortunately the power FC does'nt plug into the 2002-2005 models.

cam pulse still appears to be backwards and that may also be a quirk of the STI sensor,they are supposedly different to the standard sensor,resistance measured the same so maybe subaur does the windings opposite to again try and stop people putting sti computers into otherwise standard cars.

so your a "proffessional tuner",what does that mean?do you have any sort of automotive qualification or engineering degree(automotive),maybe your just used to working on brand new or factory team type cars with engines that have never been opened up or fiddled with.

like i said this was a favor for some apprentices who did the engine conversion/swap without consulting me till it was in the car and non starter,link was able to deal with that off forum,they posted a snippet of that,and if they want to publish more then thats up to them,i could'nt care less.

my qualification is diesel but it was back in the day when truck mechs got car qual as well having also done units on cars,government fucked that up,and i remember talking to a retied mechanic called Harry Cooper back in the 80's who told stories about his time where a mechanic was a mechanic and aircraft were also included LOL,he was 85 years old back in 1982 when this convo took place,harry was also reknown for his method of checking for spark,holding onto the plug lead and holding his thumb nail 1/4 " off the engine and getting someone to crank it,and he did'nt even flich and lived to be VERY old,he would accopany his son phill out on afterhours work which is where i met him,his knowlage was quite helpful,and i was hit with 2 tasers in jail with no effect LOL,so valuable lessons learned,harry also knew a bit about high performance and ran a twin BMC 6 cyl rail at ravenswood raceway in the early 70's and it was still in phills shed right through the 80s when i saw it.

i'm not some dickhead who woke up one day and decided to be a mechanic,it's what life dealt me and i'm good with that.

only went on this forum cos link decided  to close for the weekend and forgot about me when i had already called and emailed to say i had an issue,till the monday and like i said i asked the guys to get a plugin cos i did'nt have alot of free time to set up anything complex although abilitywise i certainly could.

i'd like to say alot more to you crapper but you'd find the l;anguage offensive

I can tell you that I recently had a customer come back and state the same sort of issue. He emailed Link which then emailed me. I told him to send me the ECU so I can find a same setup and plug it in to see if I can get it running with that same ECU. 

Long behold the car came in and I was able to get the ECU to run the same vehicle with the same setup. Come to find out that someone had installed the battery cables reverse polarity and shorted some stuff. Also the grounds are very sensitive. I would start diag. and I am sure you will come across the issue.

 

nah it was'nt that retarded LOL,at least the two people working on it previously were 3rd year apprentices and not complete numptys LOL.

was just sensitive to crank and cam sensor polarity after swapping cam wheel to correct one as link dianosed for me,cam pulse still appears to be backwards but runs with no trigger errors that way.

i just cant see why link can't preset a subaru wrx V7-10 G4+ plugin to do just that and plugin and go.

as i said on some other part of the post i am impressed with how well the cars runs on the G4+ basemaps and tables with minimal tweaks,it was just a prick to do the initial set up

[Josh T]

Iv had a wrong trigger (cam) wheel on an evo 8 before, would run fine on a factory ecu and a plugin vipec but as soon as the haltech plugin went in it would never run. Did my head in for a while.

The sti cam and crank sensors are the same as any other ej series motor. Its not unheard of for people to swap the polarity of crank sensor on a non running car to "setup" the next person who works on it. You still get a trigger pattern on the scope but its the oposite, some ecus you car just change from rising edge to falling others you need to pin swap. 

[wildwestaussie1]

Iv had a wrong trigger (cam) wheel on an evo 8 before, would run fine on a factory ecu and a plugin vipec but as soon as the haltech plugin went in it would never run. Did my head in for a while.

The sti cam and crank sensors are the same as any other ej series motor. Its not unheard of for people to swap the polarity of crank sensor on a non running car to "setup" the next person who works on it. You still get a trigger pattern on the scope but its the oposite, some ecus you car just change from rising edge to falling others you need to pin swap. 

I agree with the vipec v88,loved them except for one unexplained shutdown into safe mode which can be a prob if you don't have some sort of personal computer near you LOL,

i do not agree about the cam sensors,subaru has dedicated sti part no and it's known to be "different",but as i said resistance was the same ,so it might be wound in opposite direction.

wiring config is now completely stock which seems to produce a negtive/backwards polarity issue but thats with stock wiring config and sti sensor,no one had modified the wiring loom of the 2002 car prior to me,and i in fact removed it from the 2002 motor and put it on the 1998 motor the 2002 was stock as a rock,the 1998 car was the mystery item supposedly havg the driveline fron a wrecked team Apexi car.

no one would be silly enough to try and set me up,see my facebook page for pics of knocked out dicheads in perth western australia,2 so far caught on camera LOL,wish we had digital cameras 20 years ago.