Ivaylo Angelov 5 Report post Posted January 7, 2018 Hello all and Happy New Year! Please, I need an advice how to switch ON and OFF the engine fan based on two different temperatures. The fan is located behind two radiator cores, sealed inbetween. The front core is for the air-water intercooler system. The rear core is the engine cooling radiator. So, my aim is to switch ON the fan based on the ECT and also on the IC coolant temperature (there is a dedicated temp sensor connected and calibrated to AN volt 8 input). So far checked the engine fan AUX output as GP Output with logic cond 1 OR 2 (Cond 1 is ECT. Cond 2 is AN Volt8) and it seems it should work OK. What bothers me is that for GP Output there is no temperature hysteresis value but only a switch OFF timer delay value with max 12s only! That means if any of the temeratures falls slowly, the fan will be switched OFF (after 12s) but the actual coolant teperature drop could be just 2-3 C !? Is there another way or logic for the engine fan control so I could achieve my aim but using OFF Hysteresis temperature for both values? Can I connect another! AUX Out to the same Fan relay pin as the "Engine Fan" Aux Output, so the Fan relay will receive ground signal from two independent Aux Outputs? What function to choose for the other AUX Out? It is G4 Xtreme Red ecu. Thank you! Ivo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivaylo Angelov 5 Report post Posted January 9, 2018 Knock, knock...? Is there anyone from the famous Link tech support? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ClintBHP 60 Report post Posted January 9, 2018 Think this should work: Setup 2 Virtual Aux Virtual Aux 1 Logic = Cond(1 AND 2) OR 3 SW Cond 1 ECT | > 55 SW Cond 2 | Aux Virtual Value1 = ON | 1 SW Cond 3 | ECT > | 75 Virtual Aux 2 Logic = Cond(1 AND 2) OR 3 SW Cond 1 IAT | > 35 SW Cond 2 | Aux Virtual Value1 = ON | 2 SW Cond 3 | IAT > | 50 Then setup a AUX as a GP output Switch Logic Cond 1 OR 2 SW Cond 1 Aux Virtual Value1 = ON | 1 SW Cond 2 Aux Virtual Value1 = ON | 2 1 Ivaylo Angelov reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivaylo Angelov 5 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 Thank you Clint! I'll try these settings. It seems though, there is no support for G4 since New Year !??? I hope this wont be "forever"... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ClintBHP 60 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, Ivaylo Angelov said: Thank you Clint! I'll try these settings. It seems though, there is no support for G4 since New Year !??? I hope this wont be "forever"... Support was closed till the 8th of Jan so are probably a little backlogged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivaylo Angelov 5 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 OK, Here are my new settings: Virtual Aux 1 as a GP Output: Virtual Aux 1.bmp Virtual Aux 2 (for the intercooler coolant temperature) as a GP Out: Virtual Aux 2.bmp and the FAN control Aux Output set as a GP Out: Fan control Aux as a GP Out.bmp I understand your logic and it corresponds to the examples given in the Help menu. What bothers me is the Fan's GP Output setup. Why SW Cond 2 is again "Aux Virtual Value 1=ON" ? (Actually there is no other choise but "Aux Virtual Value 1=ON" in the "SW Cond" menu!?) What, where from are the values 135 and 75 on the attached screenshot (Fan ctrl as a GP Out)? I didn't put them there. What do you think? Thanks! Ivo PS: Aha! OK! You!!!! have adopted "1" and "2" as Aux Virtual VALUES! for SW Cond 1 and SW Cond 2 ? Does that distinguish for sure betveen Virtual Aux 1 Out and Virt. Aux 2 Out in the Fan Control GPOut setup? SW Cond 1 Aux Virtual Value1 = ON | 1 SW Cond 2 Aux Virtual Value1 = ON | 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ClintBHP 60 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 On Aux 1 you have a mistake you need to reference the same Aux in the second condition. 135 and 75 were old valves carried over from the old settings. 135 should be set to 1 75 should be set to 2 (the virtual aux port number) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivaylo Angelov 5 Report post Posted January 11, 2018 21 hours ago, ClintBHP said: On Aux 1 you have a mistake you need to reference the same Aux in the second condition. Hi Clint, OK, but when I'm setting the SW Cond2 for Virtual Aux 1-GP Output, there is avaiable only "Aux Virtual value 2=ON (OFF)" from the pull-down menu? It seems I have to use for SW Cond 1 the Virt.Aux1 own on/off state. Only then the pull-down menu offers "Aux Virtual value 1=ON (OFF)". ...Or I'm totally out of space? Please, would you check this again for me? Thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ClintBHP 60 Report post Posted January 11, 2018 Upload your map and Ill take a look. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivaylo Angelov 5 Report post Posted January 11, 2018 32 minutes ago, ClintBHP said: Upload your map and Ill take a look. Last 31.08.17.pcl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ClintBHP 60 Report post Posted January 11, 2018 That looks fine Ivaylo, have you managed to test it ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivaylo Angelov 5 Report post Posted January 12, 2018 Thank you vey much Clint! No , it is not tested yet because I have to brake in the engine first. I could try it with variable resistors on the temp. sensor connectors. It would be great if someone of the Link support could confirm these Fan control settings. Thanks again. Will give a feedback when tested. Ivo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ClintBHP 60 Report post Posted January 13, 2018 Fingers crossed my friend 1 Ivaylo Angelov reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simon 167 Report post Posted January 15, 2018 We are finally at a point where we are back to a full team and have cleared the back log. The benefit of the forum though is there are a lot of clued up people and dealers such as Clint there to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivaylo Angelov 5 Report post Posted January 15, 2018 OK, Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
400s 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2018 Ivaylo, Did it function as expected? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivaylo Angelov 5 Report post Posted October 20, 2018 Hi, Unfortunately it is not fully tested yet. The car is in a body preparation period, so no more engine starts lately. I did test these fan settings once though. The fan turned on as expected on the set engine coolant temperature. I had not enuogh time to play with the IC water temperature settings to trigger the fan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
