4age 16v base map

[nick99]

Hey everyone im chasing a base setup/map for a 4age 16v with a COP conversion using the standard distributor converted to a CAS.

 

cheers 

[Adamw]

Does it have a plenum and single throttle or ITB's?  24T wheel in the dizzy?

[nick99]

Yes standard plenum with single throttle body! And 24t yes

[Adamw]

Ok, it looks like all the 4AGE maps I have are for ITB's, so i've knocked this one up out of bits and pieces.  

4AGE 16V single throttle start only Monsoon.pclr.pclx

[nick99]

Thanks mate! I’m not getting any engine speed when the engine is cranking. I have the 24tooth wheel hooked to trig 1 and 1 tooth wheel to trigger 2 and the ground for these into shield ground. Does this sound right? 

 

EDIT; i have everything working now just trying to get it to fire, thanks mate

 

Edited December 16, 2020 by nick99

[Adamw]

Yes that would be correct wiring.  Can you do a triggerscope while cranking and attach it here

 

 

[nick99]

[essb00]

Which one did you connect to Trig 2? G1 or G2?

I connected Trig 2 to G2 (G1 not connected).

Have you got it firing up, or even just cough?

Here's my starting trigger scope.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TmxXrCms2e-0sOknldCZyNJXi45b-X0S/view?usp=sharing

[koracing]

On 12/16/2020 at 1:32 AM, nick99 said:

Those look like hall effect square wave signals, not reluctor signals (AC).  Are you sure that's an unmodified distributor you have in there?  Reluctor signals rely on seeing a falling signal that drops below zero volts (to negative voltage).  Your signals never go below 0.   I would change your triggers to hall effect and see what that does for you.

[Adamw]

1 hour ago, koracing said:

Those look like hall effect square wave signals,

The early G4X Atoms and monsoons only had a basic trigger scope that captures the signal after its been through the vr conditioning, so in this case the scope shows the expected pattern.  

@nick99 do you still have a problem?  Your note above that says “everything is working now” I assume means you have rpm now?

[nick99]

Yeah it reads engine RPM now. I have still not managed to get it it fire though. 

[koracing]

Have you put a timing light on it to see if it's sparking cyl 1 near to the correct timing?  What happens if you spray starter fluid or carburetor cleaner into the intake while someone is cranking it over?

[essb00]

2 hours ago, nick99 said:

Yeah it reads engine RPM now. I have still not managed to get it it fire though. 

If you connected the G1 instead of G2 for Trig 2, you'd need to have 360° Trigger Offset (+/- to what the timing light says for your set base timing calibration).