cuttz Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Nope still no joy? Do I leave it as multi tooth or go back to 1uz? Ignition maybe? I have Direct spark Dwell mode ms Ignition delay 50 us Spark duration 1.0 ms MX advance 45.0 btdc new scope Trigger Scope Log 2018-03-28 7;10;56 pm Test 2.llg new start file LEXUS V8 cressida trigger adjusted.pclr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 No, leave it on multitooth. You latest triggerscope doesn't resemble a trigger at all, whats the wiring like in this thing? Are you using a link loom or is it a cut up original loom? Do you actually get steady RPM displayed in the software when cranking? Can you pull the plugs out so it cranks faster and then do another triggerscope. WTF: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 All link looms and all professional done Bat was getting a bit tired I've put it on the charger Pretty much the car has all new wiring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 here is another one with a fully charged bat with the charger connected still has plugs in tho as i cbf removing them unless i really have to Trigger Scope Log 2018-03-30 12;38;04 pm test 3.llg and another i did just then also. its where as sometimes it captures and some times ive have to click it twice to work Trigger Scope Log 2018-03-30 12;50;57 pm test5.llg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 test 6 looks a bit more what your after but now what do i do? Trigger Scope Log 2018-03-30 12;56;36 pm test6.llg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 and another but the angle set at 355 deg Trigger Scope Log 2018-03-30 1;11;29 pm test7 355 deg.llg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 Ok, it looks like you might be doing the triggerscope wrong but at least one of your triggerscopes above looks ok so I think your trigger settings are close enough. Do you get RPM displayed in PC Link when cranking? Have you tried the ignition test to confirm all coils are firing and wired to the correct cylinders? Have you tried the injector test to confirm all injector are clicking? Is the engine known to be a runner or is it a fresh build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 Engine was a runner Haven't tested the injection yet but the injectors where all cleaned and tested etc before we installed them they where also done professionally. But yeah coils are brand new and we do have a timing light so I assume they are working but as I said injection is probably on thing I haven't messed with to much. On the runtime is there a reason we still getting a trigger err? And yes it was showing 164 rpm while cranking Do I leave it setup on sequence injection or batch fire? so in the injector setup injection 1 to 8is setup in drive mode saturated peak (A) 8.0 hold (A) 0.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, Adamw said: Have you tried the ignition test to confirm all coils are firing and wired to the correct cylinders? Have you tried the injector test to confirm all injector are clicking? Please do this. 22 minutes ago, cuttz said: On the runtime is there a reason we still getting a trigger err? It is not uncommon to get a single trigger error when the starts and stops cranking, especially if it doesnt crank well. Assuming the trigger error is not counting up every revolution I dont think you have a problem here yet. 24 minutes ago, cuttz said: Do I leave it setup on sequence injection or batch fire? so in the injector setup injection 1 to 8is setup in drive mode saturated peak (A) 8.0 hold (A) 0.1 All of your basic ECU set up looks ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 ok so you want me to remove all the coils and spark plugs? how do you want me to test the injectors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 for me to test the injectors i will have to pull the manifold apart again is this what you want or is there a easier way? coils and plugs are easy enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, cuttz said: ok so you want me to remove all the coils and spark plugs? Yes, then under ignition settings, go to ignition test, and turn each coil on one by one. Make sure they all spark and when you test coil 1 make sure the coil for cyl 1 fires, then coil 2 test should make sparks at cyl#2 etc. 23 minutes ago, cuttz said: how do you want me to test the injectors? Go to Fuel>fuel setup>injector test. Turn each injector on 1 by 1 and make sure they all click. You dont need to remove them or anything, just make sure the fuel pump is off when you are doing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 ok one sec for the injectors all injectors are clicking and in correct order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 ok so i tested one bank 1 3 5 7 all spark. mind you it still has old plugs witch may have been an oversight but i will replace them tomorrow just to say we have a even playing field but that bank does spark. for the sake of problem solving is there something else to check? as im sure the other bank is the same injector part numbers are denso-23250-50020 from a 7m just in-case i don't have them setup correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 So when I buy new plugs tomorrow is there any best on slot. Now im using coil packs or are the irridiums still good to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 OK today i installed new plat nkr spark plugs and tested every coil with new plugs all work perfectly old plug where not as wet as i thought they would be with all the cranking we have been doing. so maybe fuel related im not sure. what do you think the next step is? whats the difference with multi tooth and multi tooth/ missing? here is current logs Trigger Scope Log 2018-03-31 1;09;00 pm plug change -4 deg.llg LEXUS V8 cressida trigger adjusted 2.pclr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Since your injectors are very small you might need to bump master fuel up more yet. Try around 30ms. A quick test to narrow down if your problem is not enough fuel is to spray some ether(easy start) into the intake when cranking. If it gives signs of starting with that added then you can concentrate more on fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 I did try 32 and still nothing I will try spray something up its bum and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 start ya bastard works so does this mean fuel? i have a link e85 sensor setup on this. would that be stopping the fuel getting through to the injectors or is that just purely for content readings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Yes this suggests there is a lack of fuel. Can you do a short log of it cranking. How to vid here: https://youtu.be/_P1LRANeO4A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 says im only able to upload 214 mb? ill record for a short crank and try again still cant upload? how long do i crank for? 214kb now i legit cant send anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Even a 1 sec log is to big to upload how do I fix this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 i could send it as a zip file let me know if it works fuel log.zip looking at this high point on the map section the duty cycle looks low to me but i maybe wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Still nothing much looking out of place to me. Have you confirmed there is fuel pressure? You can try fuel master up at 40 or 50 but it shouldnt need to be that high provided everything else is working correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttz Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 So the injection timing and deg looks ok to you So crank it up to 50 with the start ya bastard. Why is the injection timing at 400 deg? Does the ecu read in 720 deg? One 360 for compression one 360 for exhaust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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