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Hi everyone,
I am in need of help for knock settings
I would like to make my engine knock at low revs low loads to see if the knock is picked up by the link g4x
I ve tried 2k rpm and maximum allowed timing but no knock occur
How can I do this procedure safely?
Or someone has settings already tested and working?
Thank you
Fabio
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OMTTFHcAzWgqmsOWkccmNr1QbKSDrCEQ/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UxG82u3Efvz2GiUQIdoTwZV2xbL82DZf/view?usp=drivesdk
Hy mapping experts, here are log file and base map with knock gain at 8 (as Adam said ) could you tell me if the readings are ok and true so I can adjust per cylinder gain?
I m sorry but I have problems on understand this knock feature
Thank you
Fabio
I tried to change setting, now you should be able to see log and basemap
I noticed something else on the CLL
I tried to increase map and tps delta lockout because as you can see on the log CLL goes to map/tps delta too much and even if delta is not over the setting.
I don t understand why, sometimes locks on "engine cut" even If tps is over 5-6%
Also overrun fuel cut stays active even when tps is over the settings
I have no idea what to do about this
Thank you
Fabio
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OMTTFHcAzWgqmsOWkccmNr1QbKSDrCEQ/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UxG82u3Efvz2GiUQIdoTwZV2xbL82DZf/view?usp=drivesdk
Hy mapping experts, here are log file and base map with knock gain at 8 (as Adam said ) could you tell me if the readings are ok and true so I can adjust per cylinder gain?
I m sorry but I have problems on understand this knock feature
Thank you
Fabio
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4 hours ago, Adamw said:
If you need gain that high then I suspect you have an issue with the sensor or wiring. I dont remember seeing any engine that needed a gain higher than about 8.
Even if knock sensor is stock one wire?
So If I put a gain of say 8 and get signal around 500 high revs should be ok?
What is the max gain per cilinder I can use?
Thank you
Fabio
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17 hours ago, koracing said:
Personally in a no-knock situation I like to see the knock values reach a maximum of about 600-700ish. I would adjust gain until you get full range of knock readings out to that value. Free revving in neutral at about 3000 rpm around 200 or so on the knock runtime values.
I don't think you can copy the table in the help file - you'll just have to enter the values.
Thank you for your help
What is the maximun global gain I can use?
With a number of 2 i get signal around 40 50 peak
With gain 40 i get around 150 170
Is it better to leave a low global gain and increase the individual cylinder gains?
Thank you
Fabio
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16 hours ago, dx4picco said:
Try on wastegate pressure first to have your fuel map in the ball park.
I usually see a difference in VE in those medium pressure when I tune firtst on gate then at normal boost. so to avoid to make it twice, once its safe to raise the boost then do it.
the thing is when tuning on gate, let's say you will reach 160kpa, and that is with 100tps.
once raising boost, you will likely reach those 160kpa with 60tps, and at that point VE will be lower/less efficient.
so if you tune for gate then raise boost you will most likely be too rich at positive boost but partial throttle.
Thank you for your response
I understand and believe what you said and as soon as ve is in the ballpark I will activate boost control and raise boost
Did you happen to have a look at the knock numbers on the log?
What peak number should Iaim for on knock signal to be correct?
Thank you
Fabio
16 hours ago, Adamw said:I would turn off closed loop lambda and knock control while tuning. Your accel fuel cold correction table has zeros in it so this needs to be fixed, it should be 1.0 at normal operating temp and say 2-5 for a cold engine. Your charge temp approximation table needs realistic values in it before tuning, copy the example from the help file as a starting point.
Ok disable both,did you have a look at knock numbers on log?
Do thei seem reasonable or shoul I increase/decrease main gain or change frequency?
Fir the approximation table do you mean press f1 and copy a table from the help file?
Thank you
Fabio
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23 hours ago, Adamw said:
You can upload your file to a file sharing service and just post a link here. Onedrive, google drive, dropbox, wetransfer etc.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_hnFNkSnsvMgGqCPtJnnm6V_BVKdX1bH/view?usp=drivesdk
3 minutes ago, Fabio said:Turbocharger is on wastegate pressure on purpouse,as soon as I know My settings are ok I will start to increase boost
Is it better to map ve table on low boost and increase when ve is mapped or just start with the boost Ieant to reach in the end?
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On 5/20/2023 at 1:16 PM, Adamw said:
You have a crank and cam sensor capable of 720deg cycle positioning, the ecu knows which cylinder in knocking and it can retard the spark just on the cylinder that is knocking.
Hy Adam,
I made a log and modified basemap, now car is running and I m starting tuning procedure
May I ask you to have a look at my settings to tell me if there is something out of place or if basic settings are ok?
Especially knock settings, now I included a log with car running
Thank you for your help
Fabio
fabio base map startup open loop modelled (1).pclx
Log is too big I cannot send it thru this forum,are there other ways?
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Sorry forgot to ask you what numbers of knock should I aim for say from idle to limiter, some peole told me not to go over 500 at high revs others told me 50
Thank you
Fabio
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Again thank you very much for your help I will try to improve things as much as I can now that I know base settings.
Why should I assign one knock table per cylinder if my ignition system is batch fire?
There is no the possibility to retard ignition on a single cylinder
Am I missing something that Idon t understand on this?
Thank you
Fabio
Hy Adam,
Sent you files, I found the problem, I left disable input on, a bit tricky to note for me.
Anyway now knock level is negatuve number as you can see..how could it be?
If you are so kind to check my knock settings and idle settings to let me know if there is something wrong I ll appreciate that
I just started mapping and knock settings is something I m not sure about
Thank you
Fabio
Sorry forgot to ask you what numbers of knock should I aim for say from idle to limiter, some peole told me not to go over 500 at high revs others told me 50
If you give me a reference number I will try to tune knock signal to that
Thank you
Fabio
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Hy Adam,
Sent you files, I found the problem, I left disable input on, a bit tricky to note for me.
Anyway now knock level is negatuve number as you can see..how could it be?
If you are so kind to check my knock settings and idle settings to let me know if there is something wrong I ll appreciate that
I just started mapping and knock settings is something I m not sure about
Thank you
Fabio
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19 hours ago, Adamw said:
Please attach a copy of your tune and a log.
BTW, I deleted your other post so you don't end up with 2 different threads for the same subject going in different directions.
PC Datalog - 2023-05-20 9;44;43 am.llgx fabio base map startup open loop modelled.pclx
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Hy all,
Needing some help on understand why my link g4x on impreza v3 does not read knock signal, it is at 0 all the time
Also if someone could be so kind to share idle settings because I am not able to reach a stable closed loop idle
Thanks
Fabio
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What about IAT fuel trim table? Do you think I should set it off? I don t understand if the air density vs temperature formula is already in the equation, I mean if i set all IAT corrections to 0 does the equation still adjust for air charge temperature?
Thank you
Fabio
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Thank s to everyone, I will do that for VE tuning, would you advise to use auto tune?
Could you advise me on stock impreza v3 knock settings as well?
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Hy everyone, I am in the process of installing a Link ecu on Impreza gc8 211cv,
I wanted to start tuning on modelled straight away,does anyone have a VE table already dyno mapped that want s to share?
Thank you
Fabio
Help on impreza gc8 settings
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Is this the correct expected result?
Could I use this settings in ignition trims that is (for me) easier and more comprehensive?
Thank you
Fabio