Guest |823| Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 What af meter/ wbo do you recomend to use with vipec in order to keep up with it's fast dataloging and to be able to have corect sample rate and value for autotune? Coming from your expirience which ones worked best for you? Will you offer a af meter of your own? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest |622| Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 NGK AFX, very good meter and very well priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest |754| Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I like the NGK product just NOT the big, red, digital display. In my case, I will be using a dash display to feed AFRs to from the ECU; so all that is needed is the NTK sensor and a controller to output 0-5V to the ViPEC. I have had people suggest just mounting it near the ECU but the thought of a red glove box light show is not that appealing to me Is there a controller that uses the NTK sensor but NOT requiring a display? I am just hoping for NTK sensor-->controller-->ViPEC-->Dash Display Thanks in advance, Robroy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Robroy, The NGK AFX is the best to use. The Innovate LC1 does not have a display, but this meter is badly designed as there is no signal ground wire to go to the ECU. I get constant support question as people find they do not read correctly because of this. Also the Innovate gives signal that jumps around. The NGK gives a much more stable signal, which makes tuning easier. To fix the LED display all you need is a piece of black electrical tape over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest |823| Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 so a analog imput is fast enough, no need for serial imput ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 I do not know of any wideband meter that sends serial data to the ECU. Even if there was, the Vipec and a lot of other ECU do not support it. The analog input is more then fast enough to read the signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest |754| Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 To fix the LED display all you need is a piece of black electrical tape over it. True. Thanks Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest |471| Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Sorry to bring this back, I want to install a wideband in the racecar as I am using E85, I use a Racepak IQ3 so would like to display readout on this, the NGK AFX looks good for what it does, I see it has 2 analogue outputs can I use this to output to the IQ3 and also send a signal to the V44 PNP in case of a problem ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsh Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hi The afx only have one output. That means you must wire the wideband signal to the Vipec and send from Vipec to the dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest |471| Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Thanks Ben, I have a cable form Racepak that communicates with the ECU though not sure if this info will be displayed. Any wiring info for the AFX into a EVO IX with a V44 PnP would be much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sute Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Robroy, The NGK AFX is the best to use. The Innovate LC1 does not have a display, but this meter is badly designed as there is no signal ground wire to go to the ECU. I get constant support question as people find they do not read correctly because of this. Also the Innovate gives signal that jumps around. The NGK gives a much more stable signal, which makes tuning easier. To fix the LED display all you need is a piece of black electrical tape over it. I bought a while ago V88 (from Jean in Finland) and according to the manual you recommend Innovate LC 1 as WB... Should I go NGK AFX? I have not installed the ECU yet, but there is LC1 + XD16 hanging in the car already.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsh Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 @Sute The LC1 will work fine as long as the Vi-PEC and LC1 are grounded to the same place to avoid signal offset because the LC1 does not have a dedicated signal ground as the AFX meter have. @djdino You can wire it to the expansion harness via An Volt 6 (analog out from AFX) and Gnd (sensor ground from AFX) that are available via your local dealer if you not have it. Setup An Volt 6 as "NGK AFX widebandmeter" in software. You can also use the afm meter connector in the engine bay if you are not using it. It must then be setup as An Volt 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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