Chipset Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I love the "new" features of interpolate extrapolate etc, but i think what is really missing from PC link is a feature that will Smooth the fuel map after tuning to eliminate "spikes" and "holes" as there is in other Ecu software. The smoothing feature have to be clever and if there is a spike ( a cell with much higher value that the surrounding cells ) lower the value to this cell and give the surrounding cells a bigger one that will have the same results at AFR's but with a nice looking smooth 3d map .  This may be tricky as one spike fix may result into a new spike or hole , but i think that Ashley mathematics gonna do the job just right =) , or simple if someone notice a spike after the first smoothing procedure ( Easy to see if you enable the color mode Key = H ) can run "smooth" one more time. Even if you use quicktune and tune the map column by column those spikes and hole exist and the only way to fight them is by hand . Some ppl may say "If it is running the right AFR why do you care ?" but im not like this because a smooth map is always nice and easy to modify later if you are making changes to the motor or the tune . I really hope for this one  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 My map used to be smooth, then I got it tuned properly on a dyno and it's now a lot lumpier. Why would you want to add a feature that takes your fuel map away from its optimum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipset Posted September 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 In case you are confused im attaching a photo with a part of a fuel map , that in both cases will result in same AFR's but the first have a nice hole and the second is the result of smoothing .  The real thing behind a very smooth map and a "bumpy" one is that you dont "stress" the injectors to make huge changes to their pusle in fractions of a second .....     Engines are linear "devices" and love to work like this =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 If your engine is producing the same AFR despite a >20% change in the fuel map, there are more important things to worry about than "stressing" the injectors! Do you have a link to any articles about "stressing" injectors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Incidentally, have you tried using the interpolate function? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipset Posted October 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 If you take a closer look you going to see that the surrounding cells of the trouble one cell ( hole ) have much bigger values than in the smoothed one .  Imagine that you have 2 cells let say 3000 rpm and 3500 at a random engine load    and you are holding the engine exactly between those 2 cells at 3250       let say that your cell 3000 have a fuel value 50 and the 3500  55  this is going to result in the same afr if the values was exactly the opposite ( cell 3000 value = 55  cell 3500 value = 50 )  because in both ways the fuel value for the 3250 cell going to be 52.5 .  And by stressing the injectors i dont mean that you going to blow them but it is much easier and most responsive for an injector to make small changes than constant big jumps back and forth.  And lastly you can say by looking any map from every tuner that the tune is "nice" if you see a smooth 3d map  in other way if you are looking at big spikes and holes with the numbers to be all over the place then there is something really not going on right .  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipset Posted October 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Other than that the 3d map plus the Color Map ( shortcut key H ) are features that help you to find problematic cells like those that i describe , Holes and spikes with abnormal values compered to the surrounding cells . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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