Camal
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Ok let's start again .... Question... wouldn't your cal and log file say if the engine is receiving fuel according to battery compensation ,effective pulse width,and actual pulse width?...mind you the injector is new .
Regarding bugs,why when the config is set to 1 cyl and ignition set to wasted spark as instructed ( even though you figure I am not following your instructions) the igniton driver turns off , I can't do a ignition test nor does the spark plugs fire at crank.... And second at the same single cyl config injector drivers get turned off when 1 tooth per TDC is chosen ( yes I know you said 1 tooth per TDC won't work without a cam pulse) but for my info I just wanted to know why it turns off
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I Understand your point but it isn't valid in my case ,If you are stating it's not on link to get the vehicle tuned then fine ....but not starting /running .... according to the user manual then something is not making sense ,the reason for support is because it's not doing what is expected and I don't think with all the info the user manual comes with it makes most users self taught have any difficulty.......now in my case I have an issue because things aren't working as they should,( mind you I have installed this same ecu in my car and it ran fine ,me and my basic knowledge got that done) so it is obvious if I'm reaching out for support and not getting what is expected I will react because it shows the issues I am having my basic knowledge can't go beyond here .but all that is different is the type of vehicle so the best person to go to is who you spoke of ,but with me sending pics,and cal file and trigy scope it's only someone who knows what will work best for my setup can guide me because what I had for it to work according to my setup does not function. All I am looking for is some one to say " ok the bike needs to be set at x,y,z because according to the cal and pics you sent and your description of what the bike is doing this is what is needed and it should fire up fine" that's it ,ain't nothing much to ask for
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Really thought here would be the place to go to to get some sort of assistance, apparently I get more questions asked of me ,on an ecu that 1 has a lot of bugs in the software and 2 since the release of the X no one seems to care which way you go from there if you have a earlier device , I sent my cal file ,my trigger scope and all I get is "don't understand if it's a question you are asking" yes I am asking why isn't my vehicle starting I've done a ton of settings and sent pictures just to give as much transparency towards my issues ,yet I get almost " by the book answers" ,guess I will join the line of the unhappy customer and "never again" with this brand ,when I built my car and installed this ecu ,it was the same thing ,guessing to figure out what works and what doesn't,and now with the motorcycle it's the same thing,worry not ,your brand has it coming.
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Yes I am trying to find out if there its something wrong I'm doing because the bike will turn over a few times ,not all the time but would not stay on, then Will stop turning over all together , strobe light still flashes , injector still pulses ,I'll try some starter fluid and see if it's a fuel problem ,it's frustrating cause at one point it's like I'm guessing stuff to try to get the engine running
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Image showing the reference of the where the tooth that would pass before the missing tooth in relation to the tooth at the sensor using wrench
40 minutes ago, Camal said:Already sent the trig scope, trouble I'm having is with timing. the timing light it strobes every time the missing tooth passes the sensor (right?) , however the TDC mark on the stator wheel which is pretty close to the missing tooth when it lines up to verify the engine is at TDC compression stroke the cranksensor it self is about 4 or so teeth away from the missing tooth, so I added some marks to see exactly when the strobe light flashes in relation to the TDC mark on the crank cover and it flashes almost 180 degrees away from where the TDC mark is , I did a trig offset of 180 which had the ligh flashing exactly at the mark for TDC ( where the marks on the wheel lines up with the mark on case) no ignition table values are in .the rotation of the engine is clockwise ,now the bike in this setting will catch over/ combust a few times while cranking like it wants to stay on ,then just stop catching and I won't get it to do so again until hrs later it will only crank from there on.
Wrench head showing where the sensor sits the marks on the wheel H being TDC and I being ignition marks ,in that position H lines up on the TDC mark on the crank case cover ( cover is off and the stator coil an sensor attached inside of it ) and you can see the missing tooth gap right above ,hope this info helps ,so you can help me thanks again.
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9 hours ago, Camal said:
Ok got engine speed ,arming voltage was wrong so now I got engine speed
Already sent the trig scope, trouble I'm having is with timing. the timing light it strobes every time the missing tooth passes the sensor (right?) , however the TDC mark on the stator wheel which is pretty close to the missing tooth when it lines up to verify the engine is at TDC compression stroke the cranksensor it self is about 4 or so teeth away from the missing tooth, so I added some marks to see exactly when the strobe light flashes in relation to the TDC mark on the crank cover and it flashes almost 180 degrees away from where the TDC mark is , I did a trig offset of 180 which had the ligh flashing exactly at the mark for TDC ( where the marks on the wheel lines up with the mark on case) no ignition table values are in .the rotation of the engine is clockwise ,now the bike in this setting will catch over/ combust a few times while cranking like it wants to stay on ,then just stop catching and I won't get it to do so again until hrs later it will only crank from there on.
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On 11/21/2020 at 5:03 PM, Adamw said:
Please attach a triggerscope of it cranking and your tune.
How to do the scope: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AiYbYlZQuRHPmidU5V2CmTcv6t2y?e=3XclIA
Ok got engine speed ,arming voltage was wrong so now I got engine speed
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2 hours ago, Adamw said:
With no cam sync, you will have to set ignition mode to wasted spark and fuel mode to multipoint group.
MSD's typically wont work with 1ms dwell at low rpm, they were originally designed to be triggered by points which gives long dwell at low RPM. Set it to 2ms flat for now, you may find it works better with dwell set to duty cycle mode later, but I know they usually work ok with a flat 2ms so that will be the best starting point.
Still need to see a triggerscope...
Not sure what you are asking here? Why did you say it is 12-1 earlier, and now 1 tooth per TDC? How does it have 1 tooth per TDC without a cam sensor?
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2 hours ago, Camal said:
I'm using a msd cdi on a denso pencil coil for ignition, the map readings,had that corrected it's now 14.5 psi bap is 14.7 ,the trigger is only crank it's a 12-1 (11 actual tooth and a missing tooth) I do not have a cam sync ,it's a single cyl
I am presently trying to find out the degrees to have the bike start ,my setup is 1 tooth per TDC single point, using wasted spark on ignition 1 wire ,the ecu is link g4 + xtreme
Sorry my phone doesn't show the file I asked for two files from the guy that has the laptop and he sent me the tune and a crank log
1 hour ago, Adamw said:With no cam sync, you will have to set ignition mode to wasted spark and fuel mode to multipoint group.
MSD's typically wont work with 1ms dwell at low rpm, they were originally designed to be triggered by points which gives long dwell at low RPM. Set it to 2ms flat for now, you may find it works better with dwell set to duty cycle mode later, but I know they usually work ok with a flat 2ms so that will be the best starting point.
Still need to see a triggerscope...
Not sure what you are asking here? Why did you say it is 12-1 earlier, and now 1 tooth per TDC? How does it have 1 tooth per TDC without a cam sensor?
Ok so I believe that setting is wrong as at the time that is what I was using on the single injector setting but the drivers showed up as off and I couldn't turn them on so please disregard
2 hours ago, Adamw said:With no cam sync, you will have to set ignition mode to wasted spark and fuel mode to multipoint group.
MSD's typically wont work with 1ms dwell at low rpm, they were originally designed to be triggered by points which gives long dwell at low RPM. Set it to 2ms flat for now, you may find it works better with dwell set to duty cycle mode later, but I know they usually work ok with a flat 2ms so that will be the best starting point.
Still need to see a triggerscope...
Not sure what you are asking here? Why did you say it is 12-1 earlier, and now 1 tooth per TDC? How does it have 1 tooth per TDC without a cam sensor?
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I'm using a msd cdi on a denso pencil coil for ignition, the map readings,had that corrected it's now 14.5 psi bap is 14.7 ,the trigger is only crank it's a 12-1 (11 actual tooth and a missing tooth) I do not have a cam sync ,it's a single cyl
1 minute ago, Camal said:I'm using a msd cdi on a denso pencil coil for ignition, the map readings,had that corrected it's now 14.5 psi bap is 14.7 ,the trigger is only crank it's a 12-1 (11 actual tooth and a missing tooth) I do not have a cam sync ,it's a single cyl
I am presently trying to find out the degrees to have the bike start ,my setup is 1 tooth per TDC single point, using wasted spark on ignition 1 wire ,the ecu is link g4 + xtreme
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I know how to do the scope .....this particular ecu I wired into my car before and it worked fine but I'll send you my trig and tune
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I know how to do the scope .....this particular ecu I wired into my car before and it worked fine but I'll send you my trig and tune
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Battery, so far Ive got everything functioning but no engine speed is detected,spark/ ignition test,injector test, fuel pump prime test@ key on are all good but no engine speed
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Hey guys can you tell me if I would find any issues installing this ecu on a single cylinder motorcycle ,for trigger this bike carries a cranksensor magnetic type, from the workshop manual ,I do not see any trig wheels other than The stator/generator
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With regards to the starter fluid instructions I found that null and void that's why I didn't bother to give a followup because at that point I felt as tho i was dumb ..... the stater fluid does exactly what the bike is doing but it's just not staying on as I expressed or explained initially and by the time of cranking my plug is wet with fuel so I know it's not a fuel issue and FYI starter fluid to find out if the issue is fuel related is a "by the book solution"
Insteading of trying to make it seem as tho I was irrelevant and dumb not following instructions ,all that was needed is a simple can you send back your recent cal or log and let's if there is something there that is not correct , simple sorry to be an arse bit I'm upset son!