Guest Marcel B Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Hi all , Ray are there any plans to increase the number of tables that are available for allocation :?: With so many features and so much capability , the 12 tables available are quickly used up :!: also a couple more CAL tables would be great too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest |252| Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I also agree that more Cal tables/regular Cal's need to be added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Adding more Cal tables for analog inputs is on the list of things to do. Adding support for new sensors can be done a lot quicker. The more sensors in the pick lists the less Cals you will need. So if you want sensors added, we just need the data sheet for the sensor. Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest |141| Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 then it would let to free one of cal tables if addedd: Wideband Innovate LC1, which has a 0 to 5 volt output that relates to a 7.35:1 to 22:1 Also AEM Fuel/Oil pressure 30-2130-150 (10.3bar sensor) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 The "AEM" sensors are the TI sensors. One of them (5bar) is already in the pick list. Select SRS 5bar. I will get the others added. Also the Innovate wideband. Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest |141| Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 ok, I found some strange situation here: which calibration will be used if you can choose from 2? For example if I choose Oil Pressure, I can only pickup from the list cal tables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Niemi Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Note, that LC-1 default is 0 to 5 volts = 7.35 to 22.39 AFR. (Not that 0.39 makes big difference, but to be exact.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcel B Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 So anymore user definable (for allocation) tables planned ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Marcel, You can have a user defined table for every Aux output and spare Injector and Ignition outputs, plus 4.4.1 firmware now has three Virtual Aux outputs that can have tables. With the Virtual Aux outputs, you can create some quite complex controls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcel B Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Marcel, You can have a user defined table for every Aux output and spare Injector and Ignition outputs, plus 4.4.1 firmware now has three Virtual Aux outputs that can have tables. With the Virtual Aux outputs, you can create some quite complex controls. This is true , but functions like individual knock control , snap detonation , 3D an/or 4D ignition etc. tables all require separate tables , I also want to set up the slip / traction control feature but there is now no table available :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I am a bit confused. If you look at this post http://www.vi-pec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=302 I am using the 4D table. Tango was using the GP RPM Limit table. If you want a dedicated traction control table, then this will come when true traction control is added. Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest |141| Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I think he runs out of free tables on "Table allocation", there is maximum T12. Marcel post how much and what tables are you running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Reply from one of the engineers.. Not in the short term. A few more tables may be added in the future. For individual cylinder knock control, best to group cylinders with similar trim requirements rather than one table for each cylinder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcel B Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 I think he runs out of free tables on "Table allocation", there is maximum T12. Marcel post how much and what tables are you running? I am using all 12 tables ; 1. Trailing ignition split. 2. Boost table 3. Knock target 4. Knock I trim cyl #2 5. Aux 1 PWM 6. knock I trim Cyl# 1 7. Aux 2 PWM (H2O injection) 8. GP RPM limit 2 9. Ign ECT trim 10. transient IGN Retard 11. IGN IAT trim 12. GP RPM Limit 1 Reply from one of the engineers.. Not in the short term. A few more tables may be added in the future. For individual cylinder knock control, best to group cylinders with similar trim requirements rather than one table for each cylinder... As you know , my car is an RX7 with two rotor 13B motor , most times when these motors "pop" the rear rotor is damaged , so I think the individual cylinder knock control is a great feature to help mitigate this .If there is no other option , I will have to use one table for both cylinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 As you know , my car is an RX7 with two rotor 13B motor , most times these motors "pop" the rear rotor goes , so I think the individual cylinder knock control is a great feature to help mitigate this .If there is no other option , I will have to use one table for both cylinders You have both front and rear rotor trim tables now. What is the knock level difference from front to rear rotor ? Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Marcel, What are you using these for ? Aux 1 PWM. GP RPM Limit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcel B Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 You have both front and rear rotor trim tables now. What is the knock level difference from front to rear rotor ? Ray. I dont know , I have not had a chance to mess with it , I'm just too busy at work . I will get some time off soon. Aux PWM 1 is used for my water injection systems first stage (two staged system) and the GP RPM Limit 2 table is used to limit RPM's against A/F ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Marcel, Your GP RPM Limit based on air fuel ratio is a bad idea. This is going to cause you a lot of problems. I would mount a fuel pressure sensor on the fuel rail and use a GP Output to control a warning light. That will give you the table you want for traction control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcel B Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Marcel, Your GP RPM Limit based on air fuel ratio is a bad idea. This is going to cause you a lot of problems. I would mount a fuel pressure sensor on the fuel rail and use a GP Output to control a warning light. That will give you the table you want for traction control. You think ? I just need something to protect my engine from lean run conditions , I know you and others may say PROPER tuning is the solution to this problem , but this will be ineffective if a fuel pump fails or an injector sticks or something of the sort . Maybe you can look at adding this element to the boost limiting stratergy sometime in the NEAR future :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Marcel, Yes I do think it will cause you problems. I would even bet that your overrun cut problems, relate to the GP RPM limit 2 table. From your posts I take it you are still tuning the engine. When you are tuning you should turn off all the fluff. You only want the very basics turned on. That way you will not get confused as to the cause of some tuning problem. Things that should be off include, knock control, CLC narrow or wideband, home growen limiters, ignition trim based on temperature. You need the IAT fuel correction turned on and the AFR correction enabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest |229| Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 Any update on adding more tabels to "Table allocation".. The 12 tabels are used up. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhall Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 For the moment the 12 tables are the limit. Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoolaid Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Any updates in the near future to add more tables? Been quite a while now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Likely to be a while yet as it requires more memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoolaid Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Something like a hardware upgrade? I think many of us would be willing to send in ECU's to get upgraded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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