ozyvr4 Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 Hi there, I have just got an Haltech IC-7 and am try to set up the Can network. I already had a Link Can Lambda wired to the system, so close to ECU I wired into the CAN Low/High in parallel for the dash signal The Can lambda was setup on CAN 1 ( channel 2 ). Im try to set the IC-7 on CAN 1 ( channel 1 ) Generic dash stream ID1000. I apply settings and then go the devices but it only finda the Lambda. I have set IC-7 onto the Link G4 protocol. Any ideas would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hill Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 The find devices option is only for Link CAN Lambdas, it wont show any other devices. If the Link and the Haltech are configured correctly then you will see the data on the dash. If its not working, then have a look at runtime values in the Link software (F12) , and see if you have any CAN errors. I presume you have correctly terminated the bus (either IC 7 at end of bus with termination on and CAN Lambda termination disabled, or IC7 in the middle of the bus without termination and CAN Lambda terminated) HTH, Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyvr4 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 I wired the Haltech Can wires in parallel to the lambda. Close ro ecu where.I pined the lambda I connected another plug for the IC-7. The IC-7 has an internal resistor that is activated when in Link G4+ protocol. Ill check to make sure I have continuity on the cables. Also make sure the dtm pins are located properly. Thanks for the reply. As a seperate question. Does the link G4+ stream Ethanol content or will it be something that will be added to the can protocol. I was keen to have this displayed as I run flex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 17 hours ago, Richard Hill said: If its not working, then have a look at runtime values in the Link software (F12) , and see if you have any CAN errors. So doe no data show on the dash? Do you get errors in the CAN runtimes? 3 hours ago, ozyvr4 said: Does the link G4+ stream Ethanol content or will it be something that will be added to the can protocol. I was keen to have this displayed as I run flex. It is not in the default generic dash stream, you can add it easily on the link end but I dont think you can customise anything on the haltech end. What do you want to actually display on the dash - we might be able to work around it by duplicating the Haltech stream. Get it working with the Link stream first though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hill Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 If you have left the can lambda terminated then turn off the ic7 termination in the haltech software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyvr4 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 Ok . Ill try that. I check the runtime can bus and no errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyvr4 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Adamw said: So doe no data show on the dash? Do you get errors in the CAN runtimes? It is not in the default generic dash stream, you can add it easily on the link end but I dont think you can customise anything on the haltech end. What do you want to actually display on the dash - we might be able to work around it by duplicating the Haltech stream. Get it working with the Link stream first though. Awesome. The car is stationary for the moment as I upgrading catch can lines and have to replace the 02 sensor for the Can lambda. I main thing I want to add is ethanol content as I run pump gas every couple months to clean fuel system. As I plan to remove the stock cluster I also want fuel level through an ANV input of ecu and streamed to dash. I will also need to modify the speed signal as VR4 use a reed switch in the dash cluster to generate the VSS signal. I plan on replacing the cable drive with a CE Lancer electric drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 11 hours ago, ozyvr4 said: I main thing I want to add is ethanol content What I want is a list of what you really need on the dash - the bare minimum you need - as with trying to duplicate the haltech stream there will be limitations to the number of channels you will get so there may be comprimises. Obviously, RPM, ECT, Speed - what else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyvr4 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 12 hours ago, Adamw said: What I want is a list of what you really need on the dash - the bare minimum you need - as with trying to duplicate the haltech stream there will be limitations to the number of channels you will get so there may be comprimises. Obviously, RPM, ECT, Speed - what else. RPM , Speed , ECT , IAT , Fuel pressure , Oil pressure , Lambda , Volts , Ethanol content , Fuel temp , Boost and Fuel level would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyvr4 Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 I tried adding more parameters to the frames in the stream 1. Still no response from dash. I tried to do a firmware update on ecu also. If the can bus was not seeing dash would the can bus gives errors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 9 hours ago, ozyvr4 said: I tried adding more parameters to the frames in the stream 1. You cant go adding more parameters, the Haltech dash CAN is not configurable at all. It is programmed to receive a fixed set of data only. Does your dash have the latest firmware and it is set to Link G4+ mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyvr4 Posted July 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 I only added some as when I went to Stream 1 - frame 1, it only had ECT and oil pressure. Would it be better for me to send you a log? I updated ECU software and updated to latest Haltech software I could find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Try doing my test that is explained here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyvr4 Posted July 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Adamw said: Try doing my test that is explained here: I found the protocol settings in the Haltech Help file Mode: User Defined Bit Rate: 1 Mbit/s OBD: Off Channel X (any available): Transmit DisplayLink Transmit Rate: 50hz CAN ID: 1400 Format: Normal I would still like to get fuel level and enthanol content available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hill Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 I don't think display link is the right protocol to use, you want Link G4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 7 hours ago, ozyvr4 said: I found the protocol settings in the Haltech Help file Mode: User Defined Bit Rate: 1 Mbit/s OBD: Off Channel X (any available): Transmit DisplayLink Transmit Rate: 50hz CAN ID: 1400 Format: Normal Ok, so do the basics work now with your ID changed to 1400? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyvr4 Posted July 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Adamw said: Ok, so do the basics work now with your ID changed to 1400? Yes . I get fuel pressure , ect , iat and voltage. I haven't started the car as the car is getting a catch can upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 9:06 PM, ozyvr4 said: RPM , Speed , ECT , IAT , Fuel pressure , Oil pressure , Lambda , Volts , Ethanol content , Fuel temp , Boost and Fuel level would be great. Ok, you're not going to be able to get all of these. The G4+ lets you have a maximum of 6 user configurable CAN ID's, this list will require 8 if we try to duplicate the Haltech stream + your CAN lambda needs 1. Here's the Haltech ID's for the channels you wanted: ID 864; RPM, MAP ID 865; Fuel press, Oil Press. ID 872; Lambda ID 867; Wheel Speed ID 882; Batt Voltage ID 992; IAT, ECT, Oil temp, Fuel Temp ID 993; Ethanol ID 994; Fuel Level Batt voltage you probably dont need as there is an internal dash voltage channel anyway. I believe the dash will eventually be updated to enable a direct fuel level input so you can probably get away without that. But that still really leaves you needing 6 ID's but you only have 5 spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyvr4 Posted July 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 Thanks alot. For the moment I can just plug in my tablet for ethanol content and get a external fuel level guage until they do the upgrade..Fuel level will eventually be a necessity as Ill be removing the stock cluster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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