k fuku Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 電子スロットルリレーは自力で動いています。 車が停止してアイドリングしている間。電子スロットルのリレーは約30秒間隔で瞬間的にオフになります。タコメータを見ると、電源を切った瞬間にRPMがわずかに低下していることがわかります。運転中の車には何の問題もありませんが、とても心配です。 エンジンを再始動すると、エンジンが消えることがありますが、完全ではありません。 何か私にできることはありますか？ファームウェアは最新です。 www.DeepL.com/Translator（無料版）で翻訳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Can you please do a PC log and attach a copy of your map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 2021/2/17の午後1時55分に、アダムは次のように述べました。 PCログを作成して地図のコピーを添付してください。 電子スロットルリレーは、周期的にオンとオフを繰り返し実行しています。 車が停止してアイドリングしている間。電子スロットルリレーは約30秒間隔で瞬間的にオフになります。タコメータを見ると、電源を切った瞬間に回転数がわずかに下がっています。運転中の車には何の問題もありませんが、とても心配です。 エンジンを再始動すると、エンジンが消える場合がありますが、完全ではありません。 何か私にできることはありますか？ファームウェアは最新です。 www.DeepL.com/Translator（無料版）で翻訳 Edited February 22, 2021 by kurosiba fuku データ容量 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Your E-throttle relay is turned on for the whole log and does not turn off in this log. Can you get a log which shows the relay turning off? However, one problem I notice in you log it looks like there is something wrong with the trigger/RPM - it should not be a bouncy saw tooth like this. Potentially if you have a trigger error that causes RPM to quick drop to zero, then E-throttle relay will be turn off. Can you please do a trigger scope when the engine is idling and attach here, I will take a look to see what is wrong with the trigger. Can you attach your map too please (*.pclrx file) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 車種ダイハツコペン（LA400K）MTエンジンKF-DET（660cc） アイドリングとコールド補正をまだ調整できていませんが、それが原因ですか？寒い朝、最初にエンジンを始動したときに起こります。ウォームアップすると消えそうです。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Ok, I see the problem with the trigger. Your cam has 3 evenly spaced teeth - 0deg, 240deg, 480deg. The EJ25 trigger mode that you are using is designed for a camshaft with teeth at 0deg, 180deg, 360deg. I know K3-VET normally has 0/180/360 same as subaru but I have never seen a KF-DET before. I will talk to the engineering team tomorrow to see if we have any other trigger mode that will work for your engine. Does this engine have VVT on the camshaft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) どうもありがとうございました。VVTは吸気側にのみ取り付けられています。 購入する前に、linkJAPANにトリガーに関する情報を確認してもらいました。 Edited March 11, 2021 by kurosiba fuku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Can you try "Subaru V7-10" trigger mode, the firmware engineer thinks that should work with your engine. You will likely need to set offset/base timing again to get it to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 迅速な対応ありがとうございます。 指示通りに変更を加え、VVT側も調整しました。 残念ながら、私は同じ症状を持っています。 エンジンが温まると消えるようです。ログを取り、添付しました。 アイドリング時にトリガースコープの画像が少し変化します。メンテナンスマニュアルとは見た目が異なります。 トリガー2オフセット34 VVTオフセットは、34 270 514 カム角テストモードではランタイム画面で確認します。 ログデータが大きくなっているため、Googledriveデータのダウンロードリンク。 ここをクリックしてください。 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KOlBIDwenYA4hdgVlaJ-8xyaiImbiUCt/view?usp=drivesdk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Ah, it looks like you may have trigger 2 set to hall effect. Can you change it to reluctor and try again. Ttpcar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 I changed the trigger, fixed the sensor type, and re-logged. I still hear the relay ticking. The same thing happened when the engine warmed up. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KkGvzE4TwDU-GZihQUpvy44xNtXBROB-/view?usp=drivesdk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 Ok, trigger and RPM trace looks good now. As for the E-throttle relay, it appears there maybe a loose connection or maybe the relay is failing. In log below you can see areas where the Aux9/10 voltage (voltage received from the E-throttle relay) drops to 7V, but Ign 5 which controls the relay is showing it is turned on the whole time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 リレーを交換し、アクティブテストで確認したところ、リレーは機能しています。 しかし、スロットルに電力が供給されませんでした。 画面を見ると、他のアナログ入力電圧もリンクで認識されていないことに気づきました。 画面にIGONが表示されます。 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WthIVr-znAqiNr5yW-m8qWQTthIiGJGM/view?usp=drivesdk 地図の詳細 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 What did you change from the last log? The ecu still appears to be reading the voltages correctly but they are all low ~<0.2V. Maybe a sensor ground disconnected or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 I checked the grounding, and there was no problem with the wiring. After resetting the LINK ECU to factory settings, I wrote the map data again, and the problem went away. So far, the relay symptoms seem to have stopped. I'll check the situation a little more and try to get the data again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 The recovery was only temporary. After all, only the analog input was not working. 1) Sensor grounding I checked all continuity with a tester, but there was no problem. (2) An volt4 is alive, but all others are not. 3) Digital input is alive. 4) AUX is alive. The relay of the electric throttle is working properly. The electric throttle relay is working fine. 5) I removed all the link ECU harnesses and put them back in the stock ECU. 6) Restore to factory settings. I reinstalled the data and it didn't come back. I unplugged the connector and left it for a while, but it didn't recover. ⑦ ECU hold power stopped working. ⑧I think I did everything I could. Is there anything else I can do? Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Adamw Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Sorry the translation is not making it easy to understand the problem. But Im suspicious there may be a hardware problem if you are sure there are some analog inputs that are not working. You can return the ECU to Link Japan or Link NZ for testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Yes, sir. I sent an email to I've sent an email to link Japan I sent an email to I'll wait for their reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 I unplugged the connector on the link side and left it overnight, and the analog input was restored. However, for some reason, the relay voltage is not as stable as before. When I increase the speed, the intervals between the sounds become proportionally narrower. After driving for a while, it goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Can you confirm voltage on pin B5 by back-probing with a voltmeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) ごめんなさい。 元の原因が間違っていたようです。 リンクで制御される電子スロットルリレーではありませんでした。 車両側のメインリレーが原因のようです。車両のメインリレーだったと思います。 Edited March 11, 2021 by kurosiba fuku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k fuku Posted February 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 The vehicle main relay (MRO) wiring and the link side are connected. It is connected to AUX (inj4) and set to ECU HOLD power. I tried to turn it off, but it didn't change the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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