Supramatt Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Hi guys my names matt and im for England im just in the finishing stages of building my supra here is my spec list for it.Stock engine fully rebuilt Hks264 cams 1000cc asnu injectors Greddy intake with q45 throttle body Hks manifold Percission 6262 turboAem water methinjection Im running a race tec dash 2 And jt innovative toucan displayI also have twin fans for the radiator, So my question is will the pnp supra ecu run all this? And dose it use the stock knock sensors and all other stock ones like the water temp and oil pressure? Im and also running the aem wide band with a ecu take off so will the pnp aspect this.Or will I be better of going with the fury ecu and if so what sensors would I need? Hope someone can point me in the right direction many thanks matt Edited December 28, 2015 by Supramatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supramatt Posted December 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Hi guys can anyone help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMP Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 what outputs does the water/meth system need?On the plugin, all the Auxillary outputs are accounted for but you could repurpose Aux Inj 7 which is usually the narrowband heater control and use it for the thermofan relay trigger. If the AEM needs an output from the ECU then you could potentially repurpose Aux 10 which is originally for the purge valve.The Dash and Toucan should both be able to run off the CAN bus. The stock knock sensors, water temp sensor, Crank/Cam triggers all work fine. The stock oil pressure switch is a bit useless, better off replacing it with a 150psi TI pressure sensor which can be wired to and of the spare AN Volt inputs to get a reading on the ECU. I'd also replace the stock Toyota air temp sensor in the plenum with a faster acting sensor mounted in the cooler pipe just before the throttle body.The AEM wideband's analogue output can be wired to AN Volt 3 or 4, both of which are designated to run the stock narrowbands in the plugin so you just reconfigure the input to the appropriate CAL.I'd personally go with a Fury ECU as I like the idea of a built-in wideband controller and making a new loom from scratch is easy for me. Toyota does a good job with their looms so it may be easier/better for you to go with the plugin. Scott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supramatt Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Thanks for the informative reply jmp the water meth kit can just run off a pressure tiger just when it runs out of water you can set it to cut the boost and timing, As for the toucan and dash two will they both work off one can bus out put? And if I went with the fury option I take it I would need all the below sensors 1 x wideband 2 x knock 1 x fuel pressure 1 x oil pressure 1 x oil temp1 x water temp1 x ait Would the stock crank and cam sensors work? Thanks for the help matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMP Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) on the fury, it can reuse the stock Toyota cam/crank, knock and water temp sensors exactly the same as the plugin. I use the TI 150psi sensors for fuel pressure on the builds I do and I don't generally wire oil temp to the ECU but the fury has 4 dedicated temperature inputs so having water, oil and air temp isn't an issue. If you're using the Fury's internal wideband controller you need a Bosch LSU 4.9 sensor and loom-side plug/pin kit. I buy a lot of my pressure, temperature and oxygen sensors along with plug/pin kits for all of the common Toyota sensors/senders from Ballenger Motorsports.You would have to check if the dash and toucan use the same CAN datastream, if they do then they could share the same bus. Edited January 1, 2016 by JMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supramatt Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) Looks like the fury might be the better option then as it also has 2x can bus imputs, as for the knock would I not be better off getting some new wide band ones as the Toyota ones are 20 years old now or are they just as good? And what make are these ti sensors? . Also I would need a 3 bar map sensor. And as for the oil temp I would run a limp mode on the ecu set below 80deg c so the car would rev cut at say 4k untill it reached the 80 deg where it would active the full map. Cheersc matt Edited January 1, 2016 by Supramatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMP Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) Texas Instruments make the sensor, Honeywell also make a nice pressure sensor. Beware of many online retailers that resell the china-sourced "150psi TI" sensors at genuine TI prices. They're purchasing for ~$10ea and reselling at prices upwards of $200ea... On a critical system like fuel pressure, I like to use genuine.New wideband knock sensors aren't a bad idea Edited January 1, 2016 by JMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Kriedeman Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hi Supramatt,sounds like a very serious animal you are building there.I would strongly suggest the FURY for this application.RegardsDave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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