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Tim,
I do not make a patch harness. one of the dealers could do this. If you are in the USA then Apex Speed Technology would be the people to ask.
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This is ONLY correct if the missing teeth are at TDC. Is this the case ?..if not then it is no good and you need to use a timing light.
Ray.
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When you used 15 deg you can see the timing move. Changing from 180 to -180 would show the timing mark in the same place, but would be on the wrong engine cycle
Can you put a peice of Plexiglas over the hole so you do not get covered in oil. Timing light is the best method.
If the missing teeth are at TDC compression then you could set the timing that way. To do this put the scope pickup on the ignition output wire so you get a square wave signal. The ignition signal will rise then fall. Line up the falling edge with the missing tooth area.
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Use these settings.
Trigger 1 Level = Level 1 (not Level 2 that you have now)
Thresholds
1.0
2.0
3.0
4.0
5.0
5.0
5.0
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Send me the map so I can check everything. [email protected]
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Under analog inputs there is fault settings. The values need to be setup correctly. For now set the minimums to 0.0 and the maximums to 5.0. Then from the ECU Controls menu select Clear ECU Errors. Then press the E key and clear errors.
The engine not starting will be the Sync Mode setting for Trigger 2. This needs to be set to Cam Pulse 1x and not Cam Level.
Ray.
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Jon,
Before you start doubting the Vipec you need to take a long look at what you are and are not doing. I spent most of yesterday answering posts on this forum and many emails. I was still sending emails from home last night. All the problems so far are things you have done wrong. Map had many incorrect settings, crank sensor wired around the wrong way, and more.
I had many questions asking how does the engine know where to fire the ignition. After a while it became obvious that you were not reading the manual in the software on this and other subjects. So before going to bed last night I made you a PDF file of the page in the manual on setting the offset to get the timing correct.
If you are willing to be more patient, then send me the map as it is now. I am also going to need a scope trace showing the signals as you start to crank and then one while cranking.
Ray.
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Serial port is okay.
If using a serial cable, then there will be no Vipec USB driver listed in the COM Ports. You will just have a serial port visible. The number of this serial port needs to be less then COM9.
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In the USA there is a trend to use the wrong description for missing tooth trigger wheels. Good example is engine with 60-2 trigger. People call then 58 tooth trigger wheels. Not only is this wrong it just causes problems like you are having.
The world wide (except the USA) method for naming these patterns is the number of teeth including the missing teeth, minus the missing teeth.
Your engine will have 23 physical teeth plus one missing. This means there is 24 teeth NOT 23, and this is what you put in the software (24). Then add the missing tooth count which is 1.
To do the firmware update the PC must assign the Vipec USB driver to less then COM9. You can manually change this in the device manager.
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Using missing tooth trigger wheel on a one cylinder engine is not a good idea. The problem is finding the missing tooth while cranking. The engine accelerates and decelerates very wildly and it is very hard for the ECU to measure the time distances between teeth so it can locate the missing one.
We recommend you use 24 teeth with none missing and a cam signal.
Ray.
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While you may get no trigger errors the RPM will never be stable with the wrong tooth count.
Also they just do not make crank trigger with odd number of teeth.
Ray.
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Cannot except the crank trigger is 23-1. It must be 24-1.
The ECU uses the missing tooth position plus the trigger offset value to control the ignition timing.
The items I listed are the ones that need addressing. Will send the map soon.
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Mike,
You have 22 teeth selected. The crank trigger has 24-2 (twenty four minus two), it does not have 22-2 (twenty two minus two)
Aux Ignition outputs 4,3 and 2 are set to Ignition. These must be set to off.
You have the maximum advance set to 30 deg and have over 30 in the ignition table. Change the maximum to at least 40 deg.
You are using a volt input with external pullup resistor for the ECT sensor, when there are spare Temp inputs, which already have a pullup. What value pullup are you using. I would recommend you just use a Temp input.
IAT (Intake Air Temp) correction is turned off and no temp sensor used. Very important you use an air temp sensor and have this table enabled.
Open Loop AFR table is turned off. I would recommend you turn it on as this will make mapping faster. This table has nothing to do with 02 sensor feedback. It is used by the ECU to make background corrections.
Injection mode should be sequential not multi group.
After you get the timing set accurately, you must set the ignition delay. This will make the timing stable as you rev the engine. Very important...
ECU has very old firmware. Very important you update to version 4.7.1.
Do the update to 4.7.1 and then load in the map I will email you soon. This map I will updated and made the changes listed above. Do not put this map in the ECU before doing the update.
Ray.
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How many teeth on the crank trigger.
How many on the cam.
Also send me the map so I can look at the settings. [email protected]
Ray.
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If using Mode1, change the RPM at the zero ground speed to 3000 rpm.
If using Mode2, change the Launch Limit to 3000 rpm.
Ray.
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What do you mean by reset ?
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Can the V-44 be wired for EGT sensors?
Yes... if there is a amplifier between the sensor and the analog input.
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Do you offer a complete EGT package? sensors and amplifier?
Yes I do.
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You can buy this eight channel EGT amplifer from your Vipec dealer.
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As Anders said there are four wheel speed inputs now. Two wheels will be the minimum with four wheels the maximum. You can also have three wheel input.
Yaw will not be in the first release.
Ray.
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This is what I use on the Audi 036-905-715F COP. This should suit the 115 coils
Dwell Times Volts Dwell mSec 8 6.3 10 4.4 12 3.2 14 2.4 16 2.0
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Yes you can use the 1999-00 map. The inputs and output will be different to what you have now.
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This is the reply from Tim at Racepak.
Hi RayThey would just need the following:
IQ3 Dash (data logger version is PN: 250-DS-IQ3LD / display version is 250-DS-IQ3)
Vipec Vnet module (PN 230-VM-EFIVIPEC)
Vnet extension cable to route from the IQ3 to the Vipec Vnet module. For this, we just need an approximate distance from the dash to the Vipec. Vnet cables come in 12" increments, pre-terminated.
Thanks,
Tim Anderson
CSI / Racepak Data Systems
Setup on a single cylinder kawasaki kfx450r
in ViPEC V Series
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Sorry....brain was not engaged... :oops:
Select 2 cylinders
Multi group injection
Wasted Spark