josey Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 Hi guys, can someone help me with mazda 6 mps vvt setup? it is converted to port injection instead direct injection. Maybe base map with all triggers, cam control, dbw setup? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 What engine does it have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josey Posted March 2 Author Report Share Posted March 2 mazda 6 2.3 DISI turbo L3-VDT thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 The holden V6 VVT mode will likely work for this engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josey Posted March 3 Author Report Share Posted March 3 Hm, i dont see that in vipec base maps https://ibb.co/xGWNfxj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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josey Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 oh, i see, thanks Adam, other settings ? aux 1 set to vvt solenoid, correct? trigger 2 vvti set to inlet / LH ? need to find offset or not? this is ok holden v6 but there is also mazda 3, and settings are same also do i have to adjust this table thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josey Posted March 10 Author Report Share Posted March 10 cant start engine with sync trigger 2 on. can you help with setup cmashaft have two long teeth and two short thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 The VVT has nothing to do with starting the engine. What trigger mode are you using? What is the offset set to currently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josey Posted March 10 Author Report Share Posted March 10 fuel sequential ignition direct spark crank and cam sensor hall wired to trig1 and trig2 i got signal from both, trigger wheel 60-2 trigger offset -125deg with cam sensor sync on i got backfire on intake, and engine when fires up after lots of cranking iz not running good. usually stalls. when i turn sync off engine fires up, but usually from second (i know vipec dont know ehat cilinder is on fire) so i would really want to figuire this up. thanks Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 So you are using multi-tooth/missing trigger mode? Since you have 4 cam teeth you cant use "cam pulse 1x" sync mode, Trigger 2 sync mode should be set to Cam Level, if it doesnt start with that set then your offset is wrong and you are sparking on exhaust stroke. Try the offset at 235 in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josey Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 Adamw, great, engine fires up on first crank, but, there is always but, engine is running but vipec is showing 0 rpm ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 On 3/23/2024 at 8:45 AM, josey said: great, engine fires up on first crank, but, there is always but, engine is running but vipec is showing 0 rpm ??? I dont think so, The ecu cant fire injectors or spark if it doesnt know crank position and speed. If you want any further help you will have to attach the tune and a PC log. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josey Posted March 24 Author Report Share Posted March 24 engine is running, vipec showing 0rpm using fuel, spark, e throttle etc from 0rpm. i will record video and upload here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josey Posted March 24 Author Report Share Posted March 24 here is log mazda 6 mps cam level sync.llg mazda 6 mps cam level no rpm.pcl video engine run https://streamable.com/rpp133 also, i saw aux3 which is gp pwm output for alternator, not working in cam level sync, i dont know why. edit: i know why, because condition is rpm> 600 and its 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josey Posted March 26 Author Report Share Posted March 26 Adamw, did you have time to check log and pcl file? Did i made mistake on trigger setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josey Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 update, try with 3 different v88 ecus, but same map, same problem. it seems that option is to grind off teeth and leave only one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 The Multi tooth missing with cam level sync should be fine. Can you get a trigger scope capture while the engine is running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 I just tested your map on the bench, it seems the V series isnt happy using the Cam level sync when there are multiple teeth on the cam. That works fine on our newer ecu's so I assumed the same would work here but no. I think Holden V6 Alloytec III trigger mode should work for this engine, please give that a try. The trigger offset will be different as the holden mode has an extra offset hard coded in so it is a bit hard to guess with the info I have. I think possibly around 150 or -210. If the engine doesnt start reliably or if you get errors when the VVT cams move with Holden V6 trigger mode, then try the Chev LS2/LS7 mode next, these modes are both very similar 60-2 on the crank and 2 x long, 2 x short on the cam, just the cam teeth are expected in different locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josey Posted May 14 Author Report Share Posted May 14 I give up from VVT, now i just want to engine to be synced and to fire up on first crank, which now is not case since my sync is off and i have to crank engine few times before it fires up. i will try with chev LS2/LS7 since it is 60-2 and 2 long 2 short on cam. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 On 5/9/2024 at 10:10 PM, Adamw said: I think Holden V6 Alloytec III trigger mode should work for this engine, please give that a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josey Posted May 18 Author Report Share Posted May 18 update no it is not working with Chev LS2/LS7, and, YES its working with Holden V6 Alloytec III trigger. Only, offset is different, before -120deg, now -35deg, but it fires up on first crank. Thanks Adam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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