Skinnydactyl Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 HEY guys im in need of a base map to suit my ez30r 06 engine can get it started but wont rev pasr 3000 or idle only runs at like 2000 2500 rpm thanks again [email protected] EZ30r v1.0.pclr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 You had a few settings wrong mostly to do with fuel. I have fixed them in the version below. Fuel table numbers were too small for modelled mode. Lambda target overlay was enabled and was commanding a Lambda between 8-200? Fuel system type changed to MAP referenced. It looks like you havent done the trigger calibration so you need to do that. The rest will just be tuning. 604246050_EZ30rv1.0 fixed.pclr Skinnydactyl and timslib 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 What you have there is actually a passable base map given you can start the engine with it. There are all kinds of small things but the biggest one is that you have what looks like a fuel table from a "traditional" tune but the fuelling is set to modelled. Try copying the numbers from the monsoon base map into your fuel table and try starting it again. You also have your injectors configured as 810cc @ 285KPA. factory injectors are 270 @ 300kpa if you are still running these. These numbers need to be accurate for modelled mode to work well. "smaller" things that you should also change: under fuel main>fuel system type, you have "none". This should match whatever you've currently got setup on your fuel rails. factory EZ30's changed from what was actually a MAP referenced regulator feeding returnless rails, to a true returnless system in either 05 or 06. you have no lambda input, this makes tuning MUCH easier. You dont have an intake temp sensor hooked up Probably turn off 4d fuel table and IAT correction (modelled mode handles IAT internally) you have nothing hooked up to trigger or read AVCS. Have a look at some of the Honda Vtec maps for methods of switching to secondary fuel and ignition tables for when this is activated. Run the VVT cam angle test process if you havent already - neither your trigger 2 or DI1 VVT offset match the expected ones from the help file. and it looks like you're running the same TPS signal to both TPS main & sub. There are 2 position outputs on the factory ethrottle motor, you should run 1 to main and 1 to sub. Skinnydactyl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnydactyl Posted September 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Thanks for the tips guys will try that today im running at return system with a rising rate reg also i am running 810cc injectors but will give it a go with the changes thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnydactyl Posted September 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 is it normal to get some trigger errors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Skinnydactyl said: is it normal to get some trigger errors It depends under what conditions those appeared. It is not uncommon to see one or two during start up or shut down but you dont really want any when the engine is running under normal operating conditions. Are you seeing the error counter incrementing when running? Is it running any better with those last changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnydactyl Posted September 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 na errors r only really on start up it seem a little better starting to think i may have injector problem as no matter how much i take out fuel it seem tp be like 10.0 to 11.5 afr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnydactyl Posted September 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 Log 2018-09-13 6;09;03 pm.llg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 I only had a very quick look, few things that caught my eye: Your alternator is not working so deadtimes will be having a bigger impact than normal. The bouncing at the end of your log is overrun fuel cut turning on and off. Throttle is open 14% when pedal is at zero, not sure if thats on purpose or not. 42 deg ign timing. Try changing the injector flow rate or fuel pressure setting to get AFR closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 The log says you had 3% ish of accelerator pedal for most of it. Is that correct? If not, you need to re-run you ethrottle calibration. As Adam says its requesting (and getting) ~14% throttle opening which is a lot for idle and will explain your 3k rpm idle. Your ethrottle APS>target table is only requesting ~3% but it looks like you have 10% additional angle coming from somewhere. Have you set the idle base position tabale to have 10% in it anywhere since you posted that map? What fuel pressure are you actually running? do you have a gauge on your regulator? the earlier map is configured to calculate fuel delivery at 285KPA but if you are running higher pressure than this, you will be gettign more fuel that the ECU expects and running rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnydactyl Posted September 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 still have no enjoy with this car i changed the injectors out for some stock light blue from a wrx 440cc seemed to help rail presure is set to 45psi injectors are 440 at 43.5 also put alternator back on car i fixed ethrottle issues wired the second cam sensor for vvt up not sure if that was issues but now to car wont run im at a lose at this point also cant get the tacho to work on my gc8 even it sent up as it should be once again guys thanks EZ30r v1.3.pclr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Skinnydactyl said: but now to car wont run im at a lose at this point Does it cough or backfire or do anything at all? It was running with the old injectors wasnt it? 7 hours ago, Skinnydactyl said: also cant get the tacho to work on my gc8 even it sent up as it should be I wouldnt worry too much about that yet, but if you put aux 4 in "test (pwm)" mode & 100Hz, does the tacho move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnydactyl Posted September 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 Yea the old injectors were decaped so just to rule they r the issue I've got back to 440 as I no they r right It was running not great yesterday on the new injectors was alot better but seemed like it wasn't running on six as the nly one exhaust manifold was getting hot the other was barley warm but today it wouldn't even really cough Tacho can wait just another thing to tick off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 As a quick test to see if more or less fuel helps, try adjusting the engine capacity, say add or subtract 1000cc from the existing setting and see if either way improves it. A log would be helpful too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnydactyl Posted September 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 No worries give that a go tonight and also do a lot of the ecu for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnydactyl Posted September 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 here is latest log file fresh plugs still seems like its missing on one side of the motor Log 2018-09-20 7;21;40 pm.llg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnydactyl Posted September 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 Hey Adam did U get a chance to see that log algood if U haven't had time making sure U didn't miss it cheers again mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 There are no obvious clues in the log but can definitely see the engine is not happy. Its making no vacuum and it needs like 15-20% throttle to get it to 2000RPM. Have you done an injector and ignition test to confirm all ign/inj drives are wired to the correct cylinders? Its very rich in the log, did you try removing fuel so lambda is closer to something normal? Have you checked base timing? Is this engine a known runner or has it been apart recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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