The green light Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Ok so I think I've got everything right but I'm not getting a engine speed on the PC Link I have pulled out spark plug and I have spark I have put the timing light on but the timing light won't flash what the hell is going on. Cheers team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil brown Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Which crank sprocket did you fit if running newage avcs heads need matching newage crank sprocket and set the cam and crank in ecu to match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The green light Posted October 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Ok thanks, another question. The pin b134-8 is this supposed to be going anywhere? Currently as far as I can work out it is going to one of the pins in the plug for the idle stepper and the waste gate solenoid. At the moment I have most of the plugs for injectors, map, cam and crank sensors ect unplugged. P.S grate to see the link team at wtac in the weekend ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 B134-8 is one of the main power grounds, I would expect it to probably go to the block or manifold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The green light Posted October 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 OK so I have got the matching cam and crank, while trying to turn the motor over I noticed that trigger one signal and trigger two signal yes, it is not counting any trigg 1 err but I am not picking up any engine speed. Can anyone point me in the right direction please. Fyi this base tune was loaded from the v5-6 wrx file. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 What ECU do you have? WRX plug in? G4 or G4+? Is DI4 ignition switch showing active and Aux fuel 6 (ecu hold power) showing off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The green light Posted November 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 So currently have no spark, if I can't get this sorted I'm tempted to put the original ej205 back in the car. I'm very new to this so please bear with me, as I see it the ecu is not picking up any engine speed. Currently I have no spark and the other day whilst playing around trying to start the coil pack got very very hot. Is it possible I have damaged the ECU? There is also the fact that the loom behind the dash has been hacked at quite a bit, so I was thinking maybe a rewire of the hole car with a power distribution module kinda set up just to eliminate any potential wiring problems. I will attach some more info/log and I am more than happy to gather more data if needed . Log 2-11-19 12;45;59 am.llg ScreenShot 02.11.9.docx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The green light Posted November 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Hi Adam, sorry I hadn't seen your reply. DI4 - Ignition switch is active. AF6 - ECU Hold Power is On. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 It is a problem with the trigger, it is clocking up multiple trigger errors. Did you set up the triggers to match the later engine? Have you run power to the cam sensors (i think they are hall effect in the EJ25 AVCS engine)? Can you attach a copy of your tune (.pcl file). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The green light Posted November 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 Here you go, I'm currently tracking down another coil pack. sunday morning.pcl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 On 11/2/2019 at 11:54 AM, Adamw said: Have you run power to the cam sensors (i think they are hall effect in the EJ25 AVCS engine)? Also, why do you have two DI's set up to cam position? There should only be two cam sensors on this engine, the LH one should be connected to trigger 2 and the RH one should be connected to a DI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The green light Posted November 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 So it seems I might have been put wrong with the wiring, could you please tell me the correct way to wire up.the avcs solineds and sensors? I also have one cam sensor at the front on the left-hand side and the to cam position sensors at the rear on each head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, The green light said: I also have one cam sensor at the front on the left-hand side and the to cam position sensors at the rear on each head. As far as I know the EJ25 AVCS engine doesnt normally have a front cam sensor, only the two rear ones. I thought only the EJ20 AVCS has both a single front sensor and two rear sensors. Are the rear sensors 2 wires or 3 wires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The green light Posted November 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 the two at the back have two wires. The motor is out of a 1999 subaru legacy and was originally non turbo the engine type is ej254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 Ok, I havent seen a EJ25 like that but it sounds like it uses the V7 EJ20 type trigger. Try setting the trigger mode to Subaru V7-10(JDM) and see if you get RPM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The green light Posted November 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 Yip that is what the trigger mode is set to.... Log 6-11-19 9;49;58 pm.llg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 In the map that you attached yesterday the trigger mode was set to EJ25AVCS, did you change it since yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The green light Posted November 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 Just checked and made sure but yes have changed it and preformed a store, set as you recommended , you did mention something earlier about the way I had wired up the sensors ect so I will attach a picture of what I had changed if you can make any sense out of it lol Log 6-11-19 10;33;36 pm.llg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 It is still not happy with the trigger. Can you attach a copy of you map again. I think you are going to have to get someone to get a scope capture of the trigger 1 (crank) and trigger 2 (front cam sensor) so we can see why the ECU is not happy about the signal it is getting from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevieturbo Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 The first UK/Euro/JDM EJ25 AVCS's ran a crank/cam as normal, but also had 2..mmmmm I think they were VR sensors for the rear cam positions. It was only when they moved to hall cam triggers they dumped the normal front left cam trigger on the camwheel Adamw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The green light Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Here is the map. Perhaps I should go threw all the wiring for the avcs cams again, what should they be wired to? Log 6-11-19 10;33;36 pm.llg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevieturbo Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 ignore the avcs aspect for the minute and setup crank and cam as per normal 2001+ cars to see if you get a working trigger setup and it will run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The green light Posted November 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Ok so I have done a little research on this trigger topic but please correct me if I am wrong. My crank and cam sensors are analog so the cam sensors that are wired to DI 1 and DI 2 should actually be to a analog channel? And also home come in the Subaru wrx &sti V5-6 installation manual, in the pinouts section there isint a pin labeled for the crank sensor? I have tested with my multimeter and the crank sensor is connecting with pin B136-23 and B 136-5 but how do I know the ecu is receiving from those pins? I should probably also point out I have used the complete original ej205 loom and I have run extra wires for ait,2x extra cam sensors, cam solenoids and I have also wired in a inovative wide band. Thanks. Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 The additional CAM sensors have to go to Di inputs we just look for a fixed voltage and trigger when this is reached. On a G4+ you would do a trigger scope to capture the waveform but you don't have that option on the G4 so would have to use an external scope. In the run times (trigger limits tab) you can see if there is a signal but not if it is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevieturbo Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Have you configured the crank/cam as per 2001+ ( ie V7 etc ) yet ? If the loom is untouched in respect of crank/cam, you shouldn't need to be changing anything there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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