madablackmon Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 Hello, Do any of you have any experience with the can setup with the Link Razor pdm. I have the can wires on can 2 wired to the B connector canH and canL. For some reason I can't get the g4+fury to discover the pdm device. I'm new to this set up any pointers would be greatly appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 G4+ won't find the PDM in the CAN Devices tab and G4+ doesn't have a built in PDM CAN stream but it is possible to set it up to control switched PDM outputs with Virtual Auxes from the ECU and to receive keypad and ADIO statuses and values via CAN DIs and CAN Ans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madablackmon Posted December 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 Vaughan, Thank you sounds a bit complicated I was hoping it was just something I forgot to click in the settings Thank you for your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 If you attach your ecu and pdm config and a list of what you want communicated between them we can probably set it up for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madablackmon Posted December 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 Adam, The help would be greatly appreciated. All I am trying to control via the CAN is my fuel pump and water pump thank you, Adam BCM_HRC_ProX_55_Gas_senecafalls (1).pclr HRC2 pdm2.pdmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 Files attached. When the PDM software tells you the configuration contains a layout choose yes so you will see my memo explaining the logic. In the ECU virtual aux 2 controls your fuel pump and virtual aux 3 controls the water pump. BCM_HRC_ProX_55_Gas_senecafalls V1.1.pclr HRC2 Forum V1.1.pdmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madablackmon Posted December 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 Adam, Thank you I'll give it a try Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madablackmon Posted January 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 Adam, I ended up buying a new fury g4x to replace my g4+. i have used the clipboard to move the files over to the furyx I feel that i may have missed something because the motor will not start . is there a chance you could check the two files for me ? I have moved a few auxs from the original file to a new location but i feel like I'm missing something in the inj or fuel settings . thank you any help is appreciated thank you, adam BCM_HRC_ProX_55_Gas_senecafalls (1) - Copy.pclr ANB HRC2.pclx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 The main issue is your trigger set up is wrong. G4+ is set up with multi-tooth/missing, 24-1, reluctor on crank, hall on cam. G4X is set up with multi-tooth, 24, no missing, reluctor on crank, reluctor on cam. A couple of other comments: Injector deadtimes are different. Lambda target table doesnt look good in either ecu. Dwell table is wrong in both ecus. Dwell should reduce as battery voltage increases. Put 5.0 right across the sens table in accel enrichment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madablackmon Posted January 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 adam. thank you i see in the fury x in the trigger 1 i have a setting for number of gaps and sync tooth that i dont have in the g4+. should i leave them at a setting of 1 for both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Yes, leave them at 1. G4+ was hard coded to use sync tooth 1 and anything more than 1 gap would need a custom trigger mode written. G4X is a little more flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madablackmon Posted January 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20BRX7 Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 @ AdamW Hi I'm also trying this exact combination G4+ Fury to Razor PDM and I'm stuck at creating Frames to transmit data to the PDM. I'd like the ECU to transmit to the PDM water temp, oil temp, fuel pressure, fuel prime, engine rpm, engine kill. If you could guide me on an example that would be really helpful. Thanks! RX7 New Loom V1.pclr New Configuration.pdmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 Im not sure what you wanted for "engine kill" so I haven't done that, but the rest of the stuff from ECU to PDM is set up. No PDM to ECU yet as I dont know what you want. When you open up this PDM config, it will state that it contains a layout and ask if you want to load it, choose yes so you see my notes etc. RX7 New Loom V1.1.pclr 20BRX7 V1.pdmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20BRX7 Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 Thanks Adam that's working great! I was stuck as this is my first CAN setup and I wasn't sure if it was software or hardware causing the issue. Now that I've seen it working I am thinking I'll keep as much logic in the ECU as possible so it's in one place. I'm using the PDM only for outputs, I have plenty of spare inputs on the Fury ECU. Happy to hear your ideas on data to send from PDM to ECU. By Engine Kill I was thinking about cutting ECU Connector B +14V (Aux9/10) for E-Throttle Safety (as described in the manual). What's a common parameter to use to Active / Inactive that power supply for safety? I'm not using E-Throttle yet but planning for future. Is it possible to send ECU Virtual Output to PDM for Logic? If so could I trouble you to setup ECU Virtual Out 5,6,7 to control PDM ADIO 5,6,7 to have ready as spares? And to keep things tidy I've changed the power steering output to Aux Out #4 could you connect that to PDM ADIO#4 please? I don't mind if you have to replace Oil Temp, Fuel Press, RPM to free up the CAN Function slots. I'm really stoked to be using the Razor for real-time current readings as there's so much mis-information about devices current draw and I'm often massively over-rating the size of cables for things like fans, coils and pumps. Eg Spal Electric Fans are rumoured to draw 10-15A but mine are reading at 8A. Also Bosch 044 Pumps people say they draw huge current but mine's sitting on 9.5A. Helps a lot to know the real numbers. 20BRX7 V1.2.pclr 20BRX7 V1.2.pdmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Updated files attached. Virtual aux 8 in the ecu now controls the "Fury B power" pdm pin. In the ecu it is set to test mode so it is just on all the time. If you do upgrade to e-throttle in future just change virtual aux 8 function to E-throttle relay. 20BRX7 V1.3.pclr 20BRX7 V1.3.pdmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20BRX7 Posted June 11, 2023 Report Share Posted June 11, 2023 Huge Thanks Adam, you working late on a Saturday night?! How many beers had you had? Haha. I’ll give it a try soon and then I’ll be almost ready for a test-fire. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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