goran larsson Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Hi we have a Toyota Caldina 3S-GTE, in a coralla k70 with a g4 ecu i cant find the rigth triger settings need som help can start it with the beams and celica 205 settings but only on wastespark Regards Goran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Kriedeman Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Hi Goran,is the ignition system wired as wasted spark, COP.What model 3S-GTE I have only seen them with distributors and HT leads.Find attached all the settings for an ST185 which ran the 3S-GTERegardsDave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goran larsson Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Hi Goran,is the ignition system wired as wasted spark, COP.What model 3S-GTE I have only seen them with distributors and HT leads.Find attached all the settings for an ST185 which ran the 3S-GTERegardsDave. Hi the engien coms from a Toyota Caldina it is no distributors and direct coil no airflowmeter going to the electric man to day to control the wiering Regards Goran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Kriedeman Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hi Goran,so does this engine run a crank trigger setup and a separate cam sensor.Sorry i have never seen a 3S-GTE in this configuration only distributor series in ST185 GT-4 Celica'sGood luck.RegardsDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goran larsson Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Hi yes it is a 4th gen 3SGTE engine swap from a 1997-2002 Caldina GT-T 4 cylinders, 2.0L, turbo, COP with built-in igniters, high-impedance 540cc/min injectors, 36-2 crank trigger wheel, a trigger arm on the intake camshaft, now i have it on multitooth/missing trigger 1. 32-2 trigger 2. campulse1x but cant startit it sounds like happy new year i dont now wath i am doing wrong realy need som help ?Regards Goran I find this on the internet This engine is similar to other generations of 3sgte. Here are the main differences : -the turbo is a CT20b (as on ST205 3sgte) -the turbo and the exhaust manifold are casted togheter (its impossible to remove only the turbo) -this exhaust manifold will not fit any other 3sgte head because it doesnt use the same bolts pattern (7 bolts) -the turbo exhaust housing does’nt use the same bolt pattern (so the downpipe is different) -the intercooler is air to air -the injectors are 540cc/min -the ignition is different : no distributor. There is one coil/spark plug. This system is more known as COP ignition (coil-on-plug). The ECU control the ignition timing using two Variable Relocutor sensors. One is triggering a toothed wheel at the crankshaft pulley, the other is triggering a little arm at the end of the intake camshaft. -The intake manifold is side-feed manifold. -The oil pump is different because it has to locate one VR sensor. -The head is slightly different because the exhaust ports are bigger (look at the drawing) -There’s no EGR or TVIS system because its a JDM engine. (more pollution but… does’nt matter ) Regards Goran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Kriedeman Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Hi Goran,you state that the trigger 1 wheel at the crank is 36-2 but you have set at 32-2.Trigger 2 is it a single tooth profile on the camshaft or multiple teeth such as 3 or so.Can you please advise.RegardsDave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goran larsson Posted August 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Hi Dave sorry it is 32-2 cam is a single tooth on the inlet cam Regards Goran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goran larsson Posted August 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Hear is a pictures of the cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Kriedeman Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Hi Goran,Firstly sorry for the delayed response, I am not very well at present.The picture of the crank trigger wheel is hard for me to make out, even if I copy the photo and expand it ,it is too pixelated.However the picture appears though the crank trigger square toothed section as you call it, is longer than a 2 tooth count .The cam is not an issue that is just single, but just need to definitely confirm the tooth count on the crank.Also just to note I would advise changing the timing belt if it feels hard at all as well as the rust formation from the crank gear, the rusty spot on the belt normally effects the rubber and can tend to cause belt breakage.Better to do now while apart.Can you please try to take a better shot of the crank gear, sorry.RegardsDave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 The Gen 4 motors are 36-2So set to that and sync mode to cam pulse x1Adjust offset to suit.Also make sure the ignition mode is correct and set to individual coils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goran larsson Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Hi Dave the pictures is not from my engien is somthing i found on internet Regards Goran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goran larsson Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Hi Simon i am disabel so i have dificold to caunt the tooth by my self but i hade a friend count it for me and hi com up with 32- somting. can i use the beams setings and changing the cam setings?i hade a beam turbo be for so i have that setingRegards Goran Hi Simon i have one rwd mitsubishi lancer (1984) with a evo3 engien linkg4+ we are buting directcoils from a honda k20 on it can the mitsubichi cam sensor suport seqvential timing or only wastespark?we are doing the same with a honda d16 linkg4Regards Goran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goran larsson Posted August 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Hi now i am a happy man the car running ok it is a 32-2 trigger wheelRegards Goran Dave Kriedeman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 It would pay to check the timing on all cylinders as I have never come across a factory Toyota or any other application with a 32-2 trigger.If it is then no problem but it would be super unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMP Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 the trigger is actually 36-2, same as 1zz, 2zz, vvti 2jz etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Hi am KennyHow to set Trigger 3s gte gen4 Thanks Kenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 HI Kenny, You will need to set the Trigger Mode to Multitooth/Missing.Trig 1 will have a Tooth Count of 36 and a Missing Teeth of 2. The Multi-tooth Posn will be Crank.Trig 2 will have the Sync Mode set to Cam Pulse 1x. Aqmar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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