tom-fd3 Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Hello chaps I’m having some issues connecting my extreme ecu with my race technology dash 2 display. I have the link canser lead so I can connect the ecu into my laptop and open the PC link software, change the CAN settings and apply the settings to transmit to my Dash 2. I also have a Race technology CAN interface lead which is Pre programmed for the Link G4+ ecu’s. So when I connect the Canser lead in and connect to the RT CAN interface lead it won’t connect to my ecu or dash 2. So I’m assuming that the serial connector on the canser and the serial connector pins don’t mate up? Or that I’m missing somthing else Any help wuld be great so eat so I can read my ecu settings on my dash 2!! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 HI Tom The CANSER lead was intended for serial coms. It would pay to check that you have CAN L and H wires connected right through from the dash to the correct pins at the ECU. As the CANSER has the serial wires connected you will loos you PC coms while the dash is connected. If using CAN it is best to use the CANF connector and wire the CAN wires direct from the dash can lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Simon said: HI Tom The CANSER lead was intended for serial coms. It would pay to check that you have CAN L and H wires connected right through from the dash to the correct pins at the ECU. As the CANSER has the serial wires connected you will loos you PC coms while the dash is connected. If using CAN it is best to use the CANF connector and wire the CAN wires direct from the dash can lead. Hi Simon As I have the Dash 2 and not the Dash 2 pro, I don’t have a pin out directly t the dash for CAN. From my understanding the RT CAN interface lead help with this and converts the serial to CAN, https://www.race-technology.com/us/racing/products/ecu-interfaces/aftermarket-interfaces Do you know the pin out of the CANSER lead? in my mind I’m thinking to cut the serial connector off the end of the lead then connect it to the RT lead? The F connector may be handy buying as well I guess Or go for the Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 21 hours ago, tom-fd3 said: Canser lead in and connect to the RT CAN interface lead it won’t connect to my ecu or dash 2. Correct, that won’t work as the CAN wires won’t be connected in the CANserial cable. You will need to make your own using the CANF similar to the dash2pro instructions here: Buy a Female DB9 connector for the race tech end and pinout is here: https://www.race-technology.com/wiki/index.php/CANInterface/PinConnections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Hey adam Thanks for that buddy Ive taken some pictures, as I’m wondering if I can cut the serial connector off the CANSER lead and then joint to the two wire High and Low serial connector, which then connects to the ecu labelled serial connector. Ive taken some pictures so you can see the RT lead. The only thing I need to know next is the pin out of the CANSER cable, so I know which wires to connect the red and white CAN wires to. i under stand the theory of it, just gotta work out if I cut the £50 CANSER lead or not hahaha Cheers Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 So if I follow this diagram will this work for the CANSER cable as I believe this is the CANDASH diagram. if I cut the serial cable off and just connect up the CAN H and L from pin 3 and 4 to the CAN port interface serial connect plug I’m thinking this should work then?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 I don’t think the CANSERIAL cable has the CAN pins connected so don’t cut that up. As mentioned earlier you need to make your own using a CANF and DB9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 10:51 PM, Adamw said: I don’t think the CANSERIAL cable has the CAN pins connected so don’t cut that up. As mentioned earlier you need to make your own using a CANF and DB9 So got the CANF connector delivered, connected that onto the 2 pair twisted wires for the CAN H and L and still not showing the readings on my race tech display. Didn’t need a db9 connector as the RT CAN interface lead has them on it. So think it may be an issue the RT side of things. Seems I’m missing somthing, can’t get the ecu and display talking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Attach your ECU tune file and dash config, I will take a quick look if the basic setup looks ok. Has the RT ECU CAN interface box been programmed by them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted August 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 3:35 AM, Adamw said: Attach your ECU tune file and dash config, I will take a quick look if the basic setup looks ok. Has the RT ECU CAN interface box been programmed by them? yes mate its one of their pre-programmed ones for the G4+ ECU'S. I have sent my Dash 2 config file off to RT to look at so will be good to know if that is correct or if there is any issues with how I have set it up. I will update the post as soon as i hear back from them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Attach your tune file so I can check at least the link end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 9:16 PM, Adamw said: Attach your tune file so I can check at least the link end. Here you go mate copy of the map/tune on the car.. see what you can find! All i have done to it was update the CAN settings as per the link guidance Cheers Toms map 2.8.18.pclr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Ok, set up looks ok. But one of the first things I noticed you are on very old firmware, 5.0, this was basically the first release of G4+. You should update to the latest, there have been many improvements and fixes since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 22 hours ago, Adamw said: Ok, set up looks ok. But one of the first things I noticed you are on very old firmware, 5.0, this was basically the first release of G4+. You should update to the latest, there have been many improvements and fixes since. Ah cool mate thanks for looking, I’ll update the firmware this evening and see it if helps at all! Whats the latest version for the ecu’s currently? EDIT: Updated the firmware now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 CANF connector, is the pin out from the ecu plug side or from the side you solder the wiring onto?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Form the side you are attaching the wires to tom-fd3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 Now working! All up and running! Just need to connect up my wheel speed wire into the car loom from the RT dash 2 i have a FFE Hall sensor on my e-shaft for ignition cranking, I’ll just tap into the stock transmission speed sensor for wheel speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 You might be better to connect the speed sensor to the ecu rather than the dash. From memory the Dash 2 only works with Hall effect speed sensors and I suspect the FD is reluctor. The ECU will accept either type and send speed to the dash over CAN tom-fd3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 Perfect thanks Adam! i saw RT we’ll signal converters for around £80 so if the ecu is smart enough to read either then running a wire to the ecu will save me a few quid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 21 hours ago, Adamw said: You might be better to connect the speed sensor to the ecu rather than the dash. From memory the Dash 2 only works with Hall effect speed sensors and I suspect the FD is reluctor. The ECU will accept either type and send speed to the dash over CAN Will I need to wire in to for example: Aux 1: gearbox > ecu (can I use AUX for the speed sensor input wire? ) CAN: Dash 2 via CAN RT Lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 No, connect the speed sensor to any digital input 1-8. Assign the DI as LR wheel speed and adjust the calibration number until speed reads correct in PC Link. In the speed sources menu, set both driven and non-driven wheel to LR. You will not need to connect anything else to the dash, the wheel speed will just be sent over the existing CAN bus with all the other ECU data. tom-fd3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom-fd3 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 6:43 AM, Adamw said: No, connect the speed sensor to any digital input 1-8. Assign the DI as LR wheel speed and adjust the calibration number until speed reads correct in PC Link. In the speed sources menu, set both driven and non-driven wheel to LR. You will not need to connect anything else to the dash, the wheel speed will just be sent over the existing CAN bus with all the other ECU data. Thanks mate have pinned it into DI5 as it says under the help section I can only use 1-6 for speed sensors. How do I actually set the DI up? Any help with some screen grabs would be handy thanks! EDIT: Think I’ve done it, just used the help and changed it from DI1 which itbwas set at and put it to DI5 which I wired in. Kept the settings at 220, which it was set at, if it needs adjusting I’ll just change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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