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Hello folks,

I'm considering a Fury for my engine.  It's a Fiat Volumetrico 131 / Lancia Beta type (as in reverse flow from Delta type) engine.  I've converted a Delta integrale plenum (cut and swapped ends) and fitted the rest of the fuel injection of the Delta.  No turbo, but an R10 Abarth compressor from an 037.  So for this reason, someone with a Lancia Beta volumex (or second choice Delta integrale) would be a good start point.  I've changed trigger wheel to lose the 4-tooth unit for a 32-1 which I can do that in the setup - but the rest of the maps would be handy to use as a base.  Gearbox is an Audi transaxle - but not planning any flat shifting for the old girl  :-).

Thanks

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I dont think you will find a map that specific but it is not difficult to set up a basic start map that will get it running.  

Once you have a bit more of the detail - sensors, injectors, ignition system etc I can help you put something together.

The only user that I can think of that may have a slight chance of having something more specific for one of those would be @integrale8v, I havent seen him around here for a while though.

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On 4/19/2020 at 8:39 PM, Bud said:

Hi

In case i have one base map from Lancia delta Hf integrale 8v from link G4 or vipec ecu

Thanks Bud,

I would be interested in the 8v one, yes please!

jp

edited: I now have a G4+ Fury

 

 

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Laying up the loom on my nail wall now and have all the sensors.  ... Got a Fury ECU and working out the pins and sensors.  Cam sensor, crank are OEM Lancia/Fiat 16v coupe items.  I've a 60-2 trigger on the crankshaft.  Here's a PDF with how far I've got.  Best to get the paper right before cutting wires, so any comments would be good!

 

 

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Mostly looks ok.

Coolant Temp sensor is wrong.  One wire should connect to the AN Temp input, the other wire should connect to sensor ground.  

Dont forget TPS and MAP will also need a 5V and sensor ground connection. 

Wheel speed sensor - assuming it is a two wire sensor will need one wire connected to the DI and the other wire to sensor ground.

You will most likely also want to think about other stuff you want the ecu to control such as fuel pump, thermo fan, tacho, speedo, etc.

Everything else looks ok.  

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Thanks Adam

Speedo is a VDO programmable one that runs off a wheel speed sensor.  I could wire a sensor direct to the speedo, but I'd like to have the data in the ECU and then send a signal to the speedo.  I'm assuming I can wire AO to speedo?

RPM dial is the standard electonic Veglia Borletti electronic unit.... This could also come out of AO?

Yes, planning fuel pump, radiator fan, accusump and so on can be switched outputs from Inj 5-8

What would really be good is a way to take sensor inputs and then use them to drive the old 12v instruments.... rather than a "redundancy" based system on two sensors - lol

Really appreciate the tips!  thanks in advance

 

PS: finally updated my profile :-)

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17 hours ago, Rally037 said:

I'm assuming I can wire AO to speedo?

Yes. 

 

17 hours ago, Rally037 said:

RPM dial is the standard electonic Veglia Borletti electronic unit.... This could also come out of AO?

I suspect if this tacho was originally connected to the ignition coil negative post, then it will be what is known as a "high level tacho" - it is designed to be triggered by the 40-50V inductive kick from the ignition coil so wont work when directly connected to the ECU aux output that only outputs a 12V pulse.  You will need a tacho booster connected between the  ecu and tacho like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/142171581596

 

  

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Been a bit of a numpty in the wiring diagram!

I have an Xtreme ECU and will get the CAN module for the LSU 4.9

Thanks for the tips on the tacho.

Steep learning curve - but all getting there.

I'll be in touch.

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