ChrisJa Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 Good Evening all, I have a question about adjusting fueling, my goal is to be able to break in my new clutch and get this fresh engine on the dyno... it is a 2.3l 5SGTE with 1200cc injectors. the file "Toyota Celica" is what I got from the builder but I am running so rich the idle is super rough and it fouls the plugs. I've also attached the "idle" file which is a quick log of the car running. the last file "5SGTE" is my current file with all my configurations loaded. what do I need to change in order for things to run smooth? I just need something to move around and break in this clutch. My tuner has been too busy and I don't want to disturb them anymore than I already have. Thanks in advance! 5SGTE MR2.pclr idle.llg Toyota Celica ST185 G4+ Xtreme Plugin ATS BASE MAP 3-Bar MAP 1200cc FF (1).pclr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just adjust the master fuel value down until it runs cleaner with the AFR somewhere in the ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJa Posted March 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 where do i find that? i don't see master fuel under the fuel main. should it be the fuel table 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChrisJa Posted March 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 I do not have that option. and i realize they have my cc set to 1998cc, if its a 2.3 shouldn't it reflect that? I just realize I uploaded the wrong file... this is the correct one...5SGTE.pclr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essb00 Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 All data in the red boxes need to be modified according to the data provided by the injector manufacturer. If you already have entered the correct injector data and still running too rich, then you will be having to re-tune your whole fuel table. You then change the engine capacity while you're at it before re-tuning the fuel table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJa Posted March 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 Thank you, that injector data I got from the company that sells the Injectors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 hours ago, ChrisJa said: I do not have that option. That screenshot was taken directly from the 5SGTE map which you said is your current file. So are you using the other one now? Both maps have different ecu serial numbers so one of them has never been in your ecu? The flex fuel map is from an ecu with very old firmware so if that is from your ecu you need to update that before spending anytime tuning. Your MAP sensor is not working in your log so I would say that is your main problem. It is showing 1.57V constantly so I would say that either the hose is disconnected or there is a wiring issue. If you suck on the hose with your mouth you should be able to see the MAP move. Your TPS is showing a constant 9.5% so that is either not working or not calibrated. The knock control needs to be turned off. It currently has a gain of 200 and a threshold of zero so as soon as you get above 10% throttle you are going to have max retard on all cylinders. When it comes time to tune it, tell the tuner that there shouldnt be zero's in the boost target table, it wont matter for now, but with a target of below atmosphere it will mean the boost control system will skip stage 1 and 2 and jump straight to stage 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJa Posted March 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 My apologies Adam, The 1st one I uploaded was my original file with the old engine. They sent me the file "Toyota Celica" and told me to add my inputs to that one because it is preset for my injector with that engine (they built). Wow it looks like I got much bigger issues... I calibrated the tps and map through link. Will do it again and see if it changes Should I go back to my original file (the one you opened 1st) and import the dead times and work from there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 Fix your MAP sensor and TPS and the modelled map will likely run it ok. You will still need to fix them for the original map to work anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJa Posted March 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 thank you again, I will try today. the reason I was choosing to import the data to the original map is because its my firmware. but will fix the MAP and TPS then let you know what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJa Posted April 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 @Adamw thank you for the help! Please may I buy you a beverage or something. Fixed MAP issues, now it's reading correctly For TPS do I need to set the calibration by twisting the sensor and watching the voltage or just press the cal button on PCLink? I have no IACV, just throttle screw. When I got it started yesterday and adjusted the screw to bring the idle down then next time I tried to start it would just turn over and not start, is that because the voltage is different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJa Posted April 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 this is the log with current map. it starts the cuts out Log 2023-04-1 10;29;23 am.llg MR2 Map 1200cc modelled .pclr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted April 2, 2023 Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 It doesnt have enough fuel by the looks. It stalls when the crank enrichment turns off (50%) and changes over to post start enrichment (30%). The enrichment values in those two table are kind of in the normal ballpark, so rather than mess with those tables, what I would do you get you going is just increase the engine capacity, the ecu then thinks it is breathing more air so will inject more fuel. So for example, if you increase the engine capacity setting by 20%, then you will get roughly 20% extra fuel. Most likely the injector flow rate or deadtime is wrong but the tuner can figure out when it comes time to tune it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJa Posted April 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 I paid a tuner to look at it yesterday ... He pretty much redid the whole file. Spent hours on it but now she fires up! Thanks again for all the help koracing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koracing Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 Took quite a bit of time to go over everything and make sure it was set up for success down the road. Not everything was just to make it run. INSW20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJa Posted April 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 This guy right here @koracing is the reason the car runs. AMAZING attention to detail! Thank you! INSW20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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