chuckle2012 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Hi I have installed a ross metal jacket and there trigger kit, I need help with settings amd timing on my link g4, as its a new install i need to be able to get the engine started to sort out any leaks and bleed the water system,any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I'm guessing this is what you have?http://www.rawbrokerage.com/ross-tuffbond-metal-jacket-cam-crank-trigger-kit-nissan-r33-r34-rb26/Trying to decipher what they say I believe there are two hall sensors, the one on the crank sees 12 teeth, and the one on the cam sees 1 tooth. If this is correct, then the setup would be something like this:The page does not give sufficient information to know what to put for the settings I have drawn a red dot next to. You will either need better information, or to do some testing to workout what they should be. Try them as I have set them if you don't have any better information.Regardless you will need to to set/check the base timing with a timing light.Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iecku.tavea racing Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hope this helps Scott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Iecku, I just thought I would mention a little bit of info that many people miss. These kits appear to use the Honeywell 1GT101 sensor, these sensors are much slower on the rising edge than the falling edge. The datasheet quotes a 15µs rise time Vs 1µs for fall time. So for at least trigger 1 (that controls the timing) it would be more correct to set the trigger edge to falling. Even though 15µs is only like 0.9 deg at 10000RPM, if you can get extra accuracy just by a simple setting change - then you might as well use it... Scott, MagicMike, Dave Kriedeman and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
work32gtr Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Hi Guys,I am currently setting up a LINK G4+ plugin for my 32gtr and am running the above ross trigger kit for both crank and cam (but with a 36 - 2 tooth wheel). I understand how to set it up in the software but am struggling with the wiring. Currently I have the hall effects GT101's - may change to a reluctor on the crank... but that's not the questionWhen I look up the Nissan pin outs on the rb26 connector I get:Pin 41 Crank Position Sensor 120Pin 42 Crank Position Sensor 1Pin 51 Crank Sensor 120Pin 52 Crank Sensor 1Question is which Pin should I be wiring the trigger signal for each GT101 I have?I have the XS expansion Looms that have sensor grounds so that's taken care of. But no 8 Volts out on the XS loom so that's the next problem - where do I power the sensors from?Hope that makes senseMany Thanks,Dave H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Pin 42 or 52 for the 36-2 inputPin 41 or 51 for the cam signal.The GT101 will accept a wide range of supply voltage so can be powered off the 12V from the original CAS.I would certainly change the crank sensor to something that is not a GT101. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I would certainly change the crank sensor to something that is not a GT101. I have mentioned this previously on the forum but just in case you missed it: Cherry or ZF GS101201 & 101202 are a direct drop in replacement for the GT101 sensor, in my experience they work well with missing tooth trigger wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
work32gtr Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Thank-you all.ZF GS101201 x 2 ordered plus some shielded 3 core just to do it right the first time Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Whats the partnumber of the version with a pigtail? (Not a connector directly on the sensor) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Whats the partnumber of the version with a pigtail? (Not a connector directly on the sensor)GS101201 is the version with integrated metripack connector, GS101202 is the pigtailed version (seems a little harder to find). Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
work32gtr Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Hi Adam,2 questions for you:I bought the ZF GS101201 and on it's packet it says - "Current must be limited to 25mA by External Resistor" - (see photo) Is this already built into the standard GTR loom our I need to be doing this? If so what resistor do I need Second question, see pics of my cam trigger wheel - would this work with Cam Pulse 1x or will the cherry pick up the hole as well?Cheers,Dave On second thoughts - the hole is there purely as a counter balance - so the sensor should just see the one gap and therefore work correctly set on Cam Pulse 1x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 You will not need any extra resistor. I'm not convinced about your balance hole however, these sensors are quite sensitive and can "see" metal (or missing metal) over quite a large distance. Can you post a photo of how the sensor points at that trigger wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
work32gtr Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 It's a ross trigger kit just with their early trigger for the cam from 5 years ago... they have since updated as you can see in the picture. But same sensor holder. 90 degrees to the cam wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 I suspect they have updated the design for a reason but you can always just give it a try, our trigger scope function will show you if there is a problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZT-R Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 Is there a wiring connector for the factory nissan CAS to make a sub harness without cutting the harness? I can only find the female version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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